83: Pope Francis and the Crisis of Confusion—Bishop Rene Henry Gracida (video segment— full audio below)


A few minutes into my conversation with Bishop Gracida, bishop emeritus of Corpus Christi, TX, it becomes obvious that he is direct and to the point, evidently allergic to beating around the bush. Yet, he’s kindly and thoughtful. At 95, he is hale and hearty, and is one of the very few bishops who regularly blog. His remarks, sometimes trenchant, always readable, are found at http://www.abyssum.org Abyssus Abyssum Invocat, Latin for “deep calls to deep” (from Psalm 42:7).

If you feel somewhat disoriented by some of the utterances and writings of Pope Francis, you’re not alone. If the thought of criticizing the Pope makes you uncomfortable (there are plenty of nasty professional Francis Haters online), that’s a good sign of filial devotion to the Holy Father and to the Church he visibly leads. Sometimes, though, the faithful have “the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful” (Canon 212.3).

In this regards, Bishop Gracida has some questions that fearlessly “go there.” What do I mean? The authorized biography of disgraced Godfried Cardinal Daneels of Belgium describes activities between and among cardinal electors, such as Cardinal Carlo Martini, Cardinal Achille Silvestrini, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, and Cardinals Karl Lehmann and Walter Kasper—dubbed the St. Galen Mafia. These activities, verified by Austin Ivereigh in his hagiographic biography of Pope Francis, The Great Reformer: Francis and the Making Of a Radical Pope involve canvassing other electors to elect Jorge Cardinal Bergolio.


Bishop Rene Gracida believes, as do others, that this activity is canonically illegal under the promulgated laws in the 1996 Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici Gregis, by St. John Paul II. If this is true, then the validity of the papal election may be in doubt. You read that right.

To state the obvious, I am not a canonist nor was I at the Conclave. What I know is that know that the reaction of most Catholic pundits to the notion that the 2013 election may have been invalid is met with a guffaw or a “that’s crazy talk.” It’s a gorilla in the room whose existence needs to be acknowledged before it can be dismissed as harmless.


After this interview you will:

  • Have a sense of appreciation for what Ordinaries are called to as shepherds of souls
  • Understand the difference between true episcopal authority as it resides in the individual bishop and the largely administrative authority of a national bishops’ conference
  • Get a clear picture of a self-described “one crisis after another” life lived to the full
  • See more reasons to renew your prayers for the life and health of the Church
  • Understand why the sacraments must never be politicized no matter who does it
  • Maybe be shaken up!

About abyssum

I am a retired Roman Catholic Bishop, Bishop Emeritus of Corpus Christi, Texas
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  1. Ed Kelly says:

    Patrick Coffin writes (March 2010), “I could add in Garabandal – another high profile false apparition.”

    Bishop Gracida writes, “A Journey of Happiness and Hope is eminently readable. I could not put it down once I started reading it and the fact that Saints Padre Pio and Mother Theresa of Calcutta were such strong supporters of the visionaries of Garabandal came as a welcome surprise to me in view of the reprehensible way in which the bishops of Santander have mishandled Garabandal from the beginning.
    The book is available from Amazon and costs only $15.00. I highly recommend it.”
    +Rene Henry Gracida

    A conversation between the two of them on this topic should be informative – especially on the book’s lengthy Appendix IV: Catholic Church Authorities Look Favorably on Garabandal.

  2. gellerman55 says:

    Great interview! Keep pounding the drum.

  3. hellenback7 says:

    It was great to see and hear you in the video your Excellency.
    I had just watched it the day before you posted the link here and pray you are as healthy as you appear!
    God bless and keep you.

  4. texasooz57 says:

    Tuning in, Bishop Gracida. Thank you! Prayers continue for you daily!

  5. camroyer says:

    Wonderful interview!

    It’s always nice to hear more of your story, Your Excellency, and to see more of how you think.

  6. Sheepdog says:

    I tweeted out this blog post, and made sure that people will watch the video and the audio. We could pray that Benedict XVI named you Cardinal. Since that is not likely to happen, we rely on God. I will listen to the entire interview from start to finish and I highly look forward to it.

  7. Mary D says:

    Bishop Gracida, thank you for your clear and concise interview .
    I am so grateful for your wisdom shared with us over the years and
    I am thankful that you were able to confirm at least three of my
    I am very blessed to be able to call you Friend, dear Shepherd!

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