EVEN IF THERE ARE ONLY FOUR CARDINALS IN FAVOR OF THE DUBIA, FRANCIS MUST RESPOND !!!

 

The Four Cardinals Are Up 14-9. But Leonardo Boff Is in the Game, Too

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(Illustration published in “The Remnant,” December 30, 2016)

 

Settimo Cielo : La Chiesa

 

by  Sandro Magister

[ EMPHASIS AND {COMMENTARY} IN RED TYPE BY ABYSSUM ]

Shortly before Christmas there were eighteen cardinals and bishops who had spoken out for or against the five doubts made public on November 14 by four cardinals concerning controversial points of “Amoris Laetitia,” with a request to Pope Francis for “clarity,” a request that so far has gone unheeded.

In this December 21 article from http://www.chiesa there was a thorough presentation of their statements:

> The Pope Is Not Answering the Four Cardinals. But Few Justify Him

A “Postscript” mentioned three other contributions, bringing the total to twenty-one, only eight of them against the initiative of the four cardinals.

But since then another cardinal and bishop have raised their voices, one for and one against.

In support of the four cardinals is that of auxiliary bishop of Salzburg Andreas Laun, interviewed on December 23 by Maike Hickson for the blog OnePeterFive:

Bishop Andreas Laun on Amoris Laetitia and the Four Cardinals’ Dubia

{ Retired bishops (bishops emeriti) do not have a canonical right to vote for anything in the Church, but I go on record here that if I had a vote in any election regarding the Dubia I would vote IN FAVOR OF THE DUBIA , +Rene Henry Gracida, Bishop Emeritus of Corpus Christi !!! }

In support of the pope is that of Cardinal Walter Kasper, in a December 22 interview with Vatican Radio, in German:

> Kardinal Kasper: “Amoris Laetitia ist klar”

In Kasper’s judgment, “Of course, anyone can pose doubts and questions to the pope – any cardinal can do that. Whether it was a good idea to make this public is a completely different question, that is what I would doubt. In my view the apostolic letter is clear; there are also further explanations by the pope himself, such as the letter to the Argentine bishops, or the explanations of the cardinal vicar of Rome. There, it is clarified what the pope means and how he understands it. There is no contradiction of the statements of John Paul II. There is instead a homogeneous development. This is my position, as I see it. In this respect, for me these dubia, these doubts do not stand up.”  { This is absurd !!!  Amoris Laetitia is not clear !!!   On the contrary, it is a perfect example of Jesuit ambiguity !!! }

At the present time, therefore, among the twenty-three cardinals and bishops who have weighed in the score is 14 to 9 in favor of the four cardinals, an evident sign that their “dubia” are by no means seen as insubstantial and that the expectation of a clarification is becoming more and more strong and widely shared.

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It must also be pointed out that one of the four cardinals who signed the “dubia,” the German Walter Brandmüller, when interviewed by Andrea Tornielli for Vatican Insider clarified the meaning of the “formal correction” of the pope suggested by another of the signatories, Cardinal Raymond L. Burke:

> Brandmüller: “Any fraternal correction proposed to the Pope must be presented in camera caritatis”

“Cardinal Burke did not say,” Brandmüller specified, “that a potential fraternal correction must be made publicly, nor did he specify a deadline. I believe that Cardinal Burke is convinced that a fraternal correction must in the first instance be made ‘in camera caritatis.’ The cardinal has expressed his own opinion in complete independence, and it may of course be shared by the other cardinals too.”

“The ‘dubia’,” Brandmüller also said, “seek to encourage debate in the Church, as is indeed happening. We cardinals expect a response to the ’dubia’, as the lack of a response would be seen by many within the Church as a rejection of the clear and articulate adherence to the clearly defined doctrine.”

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If the survey is then extended beyond just the cardinals and bishops, there is at least one contribution that must be pointed out.

It is the extensive interview with the Brazilian theologian Leonardo Boff published in Germany on Christmas day, in the newspaper “Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger”:

> Leonardo Boff im Interview: “Papst Franziskus ist einer von uns”

Portions of the interview are available in both English and Italian.

Boff dedicates this passage to the “dubia”:

“The pope feels the sting of the headwinds from other parts of the hierarchy, especially those of the United States. This cardinal Burke, who now – together with your retired cardinal Meisner of Cologne – has written a letter to the pope, is the Donald Trump of the Catholic Church (laughs). But unlike Trump, Burke has been neutralized in the curia. Thank God. These people really believe that it is up to them to correct the pope. As if they were above the pope. Such a thing is unusual, if not unprecedented in the history of the Church. One can criticize the pope, have a discussion with him. This is what I have often done. But that cardinals should publicly accuse the pope of spreading theological errors or even heresies, I think this is too much. It is an affront that the pope cannot allow. The pope cannot be judged, this is the teaching of the Church.”

Except that in the same interview, Boff himself accuses of “grave theological error” and of “religious terrorism” the statement “Dominus Iesus” published in 2000 by then-cardinal Joseph Ratzinger with the full approval of Pope John Paul II.

But there are other interesting passages of the interview.

For example, where Boff explains why Pope Francis had to cancel the audience that he had granted to him at the beginning of 2015:

“I had received an invitation, and I had already landed in Rome. But that very day, right before the beginning [of the work] of the synod on the family of 2015, thirteen cardinals – including German cardinal Gerhard Müller – organized a revolt against the pope with a letter addressed to him that was later published, lo and behold, in a newspaper. The pope was furious, and he said to me: ‘Boff, I don’t have time. I have to reestablish calm before the synod begins. We’ll see each other another time.”

Or where he says he “heard that the pope wants to accept the explicit request of the Brazilian bishops, and especially of his friend the cardinal Cláudio Hummes, to again use married priests in pastoral care, at least for a certain experimental period.”

Not that Boff is waiting for the pope’s permission. In the interview, in fact, he recounts that although he is married and formally barred from exercising the ministry:

“I already do what I have always done, and when I happen upon a parish without a priest I celebrate the Mass together with the people, and no bishop has contested or prohibited me in this. On the contrary, the bishops are happy and they tell me: ‘The people have a right to the Eucharist. Keep going!’ My theological instructor, Cardinal Paulo Evaristo Arns – who died a few days ago – was, for example, very open. He came to the point where, when he saw married priests sitting in the nave during the Mass, he would have them come up to the altar and concelebrated the Mass with them.”

(English translation by Matthew Sherry, Ballwin, Missouri, U.S.A.)

 

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One Response to EVEN IF THERE ARE ONLY FOUR CARDINALS IN FAVOR OF THE DUBIA, FRANCIS MUST RESPOND !!!

  1. The pope cannot be judged, this is the teaching of the Church.”
    It is also the teaching of the CC that Holy Matrimony is a Sacrament instituted by Jesus Christ Himself which stipulates that “what God has joined together let no man put asunder”. He also omits to mention Hell which we know exists because many saints have been allowed to see it, including the three children of Fatima. These NWO Modernists are nothing but a political Marxist group of men who have no belief in the Triune God & don’t want anyone else to have either. Theirs is a man-made culture of ‘do what you want as long as we approve of it’ tyrannical force. They should all have warrants out for their arrest.

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