Rumble & Twitter on whether Benedict is still Pope: Patrick Coffin’s 7 Pieces of Evidence & Dr. Edmund Mazza vs. Steven O’Reilly
DEBATE: Is Benedict Still Pope?
Today is the nine year anniversary Pope Benedict announced his resignation to the world (February 11th, 2013). Today’s debate answers the question: was Benedict’s resignation valid; and of not, IS BENEDICT STILL POPE?
Todays debaters are:
Dr. Ed Mazza is former Full Professor of History at Azusa Pacific University and host of “The Bar of History” at VirginMostPowerfulRadio.org. Mazza is the author of The Scholastics and the Jews: Coexistence, Conversion and the Medieval Origins of Tolerance from Angelico Press. His online classes in Church and World History are available at edmundmazza.com
Steven O’Reilly is a graduate of the University of Dallas and the Georgia Institute of Technology. He writes for the blog RomaLocutaEst, He has had articles appear in the old Catholic Answers magazine, “THIS ROCK,” One Peter Five, and LIFESITENEWs. He is working on a historical fiction trilogy entitled PIA FIDELIS set in the time of the Arian Crisis, and the rise Julian the Apostate. Book I, “PIA FIDELIS: The Two Kingdoms”, is available for order on Amazon and other sites. He is a former intelligence officer, who served in the Clandestine Services of the CIA. He lives in Georgia with his wife, Margaret. He has four sons, and new granddaughter. [https://player.fm/series/timothy-gordon-rules-for-retrogrades-podcast/debate-is-benedict-still-pope]
Dr. Edmund Mazza and Steven O’Reilly on the Rules for Retrograde podcast debated on “The Resignation of Pope Benedict XVI.” It can be found here.
Here is some stuff on Rumble and Twitter on the debate as well as on whether Benedict is still pope:
The recent ‘BiP’ debate with Dr. Mazza and Steven O’Reilly, made me recall the article by @CionciAndrea from last July, wherein he responds to 3 objections (from @S_OReilly_USA) wrt Pope Benedict XVI’s “Plan B”.
Answer 1 below. Original Italian here: https://liberoquotidiano.it/articolo_blog/
Here is the video of the debate between Dr. Mazza and myself on @timotheeology R4R show. Debate resolution: Benedict’s resignation was invalid due to “substantial error.” Dr. Mazza was the ‘yes’ ; I took ‘no’ position. [https://twitter.com/S_OReilly_USA/status/1492297551231467520]
On the ninth anniversary of Pope Benedict not Canonically resigning, another person comes out publicly as “Benedict is Pope – BiP” | Barnhardt https://barnhardt.biz/2022/02/11/on- [https://twitter.com/ProcessionsUSA/status/1492187075742941186]
Will there be coffee in the gulag?@CoffinMedia
And now: shiny jagged red pill evidence that the Feb/2013 abdication by @P_BenedictXVI (who, if you click on it, is still called “Pope Benedict XVI”) was fatally flawed, and the Mar/2013 election of Bergoglio was likewise null: [https://twitter.com/CoffinMedia/status/1491929325938962432]
Link to Patrick Coffin’s Rumble video:
Here are Coffin’s 7 pieces of evidence:
1) The term “pope emeritus” has no precedent and is confusing
2) Pope Benedict XVI seems to have resigned only part of the papacy, the active ministerium, not the office or munus of the papacy
3) Pope Benedict’s longtime personal secretary Archbishop Georg Gänswein has made statements that appear to affirm Benedict’s continued papal identity
4) Pope Benedict’s correct form of address is still “Your Holiness”
5) There are at least three errors in the official Latin “declaratio” read by Pope Benedict on February 11th 2013
6) “Universal peaceful acceptance by the Church of Francis has never really occurred.
7) The canonically illegal behavior of the St. Gallen Mafia cardinals in conspiring to vote in their man from Buenos Aires in 2013 invalidates the Conclave. [https://www.patrickcoffin.media/seven-pieces-of-evidence-that-francis-is-an-antipope/]
Pray an Our Father now for reparation for the sins committed because of Francis’s Amoris Laetitia.
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Stop for a moment of silence, ask Jesus Christ what He wants you to do now and next. In this silence remember God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost – Three Divine Persons yet One God, has an ordered universe where you can know truth and falsehood as well as never forget that He wants you to have eternal happiness with Him as his son or daughter by grace. Make this a practice. By doing this you are doing more good than reading anything here or anywhere else on the Internet.
– Doctor of the Church St. Francis de Sales totally confirmed beyond any doubt the possibility of a heretical pope and what must be done by the Church in such a situation:
“[T]he Pope… WHEN he is EXPLICITLY a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church, and the Church MUST either deprive him, or, as some say, declare him deprived, of his Apostolic See.”
(The Catholic Controversy, by St. Francis de Sales, Pages 305-306)
Saint Robert Bellarmine, also, said “the Pope heretic is not deposed ipso facto, but must be declared deposed by the Church.”
– “If Francis is a Heretic, What should Canonically happen to him?”: http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2020/12/if-francis-is-heretic-what-should.html
– “Could Francis be a Antipope even though the Majority of Cardinals claim he is Pope?”: http://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2019/03/could-francis-be-antipope-even-though.html
– If Francis betrays Benedict XVI & the”Roman Rite Communities” like he betrayed the Chinese Catholics we must respond like St. Athanasius, the Saintly English Bishop Robert Grosseteste & “Eminent Canonists and Theologians” by “Resist[ing]” him: https://www.thecatholicmonitor.com/2021/12/if-francis-betrays-benedict-xvi.html
– LifeSiteNews, “Confusion explodes as Pope Francis throws magisterial weight behind communion for adulterers,” December 4, 2017:
The AAS guidelines explicitly allows “sexually active adulterous couples facing ‘complex circumstances’ to ‘access the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.'”
– On February 2018, in Rorate Caeli, Catholic theologian Dr. John Lamont:
“The AAS statement… establishes that Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia has affirmed propositions that are heretical in the strict sense.”
– On December 2, 2017, Bishop Rene Gracida:
“Francis’ heterodoxy is now official. He has published his letter to the Argentina bishops in Acta Apostlica Series making those letters magisterial documents.”
Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church by the bishops by the grace of God.
– Intel Cryptanalyst-Mathematician on Biden Steal: “212Million Registered Voters & 66.2% Voting,140.344 M Voted…Trump got 74 M, that leaves only 66.344 M for Biden” [http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/intel-cryptanalyst-mathematician-on.html?m=1]
– Will US be Venezuela?: Ex-CIA Official told Epoch Times “Chávez started to Focus on [Smartmatic] Voting Machines to Ensure Victory as early as 2003”: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2020/12/will-us-be-venezuela-ex-cia-official.html
– Tucker Carlson’s Conservatism Inc. Biden Steal Betrayal is explained by “One of the Greatest Columns ever Written” according to Rush: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/tucker-carlsons-conservatism-inc-biden.html?m=1
– A Hour which will Live in Infamy: 10:01pm November 3, 2020:
What is needed right now to save America from those who would destroy our God given rights is to pray at home or in church and if called to even go to outdoor prayer rallies in every town and city across the United States for God to pour out His grace on our country to save us from those who would use a Reichstag Fire-like incident to destroy our civil liberties. [Is the DC Capitol Incident Comparable to the Nazi Reichstag Fire Incident where the German People Lost their Civil Liberties?: http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2021/01/is-dc-capital-incident-comparable-to.html?m=1 and Epoch Times Show Crossroads on Capitol Incident: “Anitfa ‘Agent Provocateurs‘”: