OUR LORD Jesus Christ IS THE CENTER OF OUR LIFE, IN FOCUSING OUR VERY BEING ON HIM WE ACKNOWLEDGE HIS FATHER AS HE HIMSELF ASSURED US

The Primacy of Jesus and the Church’s Liturgical Year

Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, Cap.

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2019

Today, even at the highest ecclesial levels, the importance of Catholic doctrine is disparaged. In particular, Jesus is reduced to one of many founders of divinely willed religions.  I was contemplating this sad reality on the recent Solemnity of Christ the King, the celebration of Jesus Christ as the definitive Lord and universal Savior.  In the entire cosmos, he alone holds primacy of place.  There is no name greater, and therefore, there is no one superior to Jesus, the incarnate, only begotten, Spirit-filled Son of the Father.

As I pondered this effective belittling of Jesus, the thought came to me that the Church’s liturgical year is both the safeguard and the promoter of Jesus’ primacy.  The climax of the Church’s liturgical year is the Feast of Christ the King. But then it begins again with Advent, the preparation for the Solemnity of the Nativity, the birth of Jesus, the incarnate Father’s Son.

Christmas is founded upon an event, a liturgical celebration, that took place nine months earlier on March 25, the Annunciation.  On that feast, the Church joyfully recalls the coming of the archangel Gabriel to Mary.  He is sent by the Father to announce to her that by the overshadowing of the Holy Spirit she will conceive a son, whom she is to name Jesus – YHWH-Saves.  Gabriel informs Mary that her son will inherit the everlasting kingdom of David and will be called the Son of God.

In these conjoined events, we celebrate the singular significance of Jesus.  Yes, Jesus is a man conceived and born of a woman. But conceived in Mary’s womb by the power of the Holy Spirit.  No other event in the history of the world comes close to this marvelous truth, and, therefore, no other human being, past or future, can be greater than Jesus, the eternal Son of the living God.

This is his divine identity, and it is unique to him.  No other religion lays claim to such a truth, and no founder of any other religion claims to have God as his very own divine Father.

The best Mohammed can do, for example, is to profess that he is the greatest prophet – a  far cry from the truth that Jesus is the Son, the very Word, of his heavenly Father.

Not surprisingly, then, the Church marks the dawn of the new calendar year, January 1, by celebrating the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, for with the birth of her son the dawn of a new and eternal life appears.  Mary, in herself, is the proclamation and the defender of the mystery of the Incarnation.  To honor Mary as the Mother of God is to honor her human son as the Father’s divine Son.

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Who first proclaims this truth that Jesus is the Son of God?  The Father himself! At Jesus’ baptism, as the Holy Spirit descends upon him, the same Spirit by whose power he was conceived as man, the Father declares who Jesus is: “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.”

The Father affirms, and so confirms, that his Son, Jesus, is God as he himself is God, for Jesus possesses fully the Father’s very divine Spirit of Sonship.  This declaration of Jesus’ divine identity is what we celebrate on the Feast of the Baptism of Jesus.  Once again, we find the Church’s liturgical year professing the primacy of Jesus.

During Lent, the Church prepares to celebrate the definitive events by which Jesus becomes the universal Savior, the events in and through which he enacts his name, YHWH-Saves.  Through his passion and death, Jesus obtains the forgiveness of our sins, for he lovingly offers his holy and innocent life to his Father out of love for us.

So pleased was the Father that, by the power of the Holy Spirit, he raised his Son, Jesus, from the dead and at his ascension made him the Lord of glory.  In so doing the Father made Jesus truly Jesus, mankind’s singular, definitive Lord and universal Savior.

The Father established Jesus, his glorious incarnate Son, as the first and the last, the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, and so King of kings, the Lord of lords.  During Holy Week, Easter, and the Ascension, the Church celebrates this mighty work of the Father made manifest in his incarnate Spirit-filled Son, Jesus Christ.

To hold or to insinuate that Jesus is merely one of many “saviors” is not simply to denigrate Jesus but to insult the Father himself.  Ultimately, it is to sin against the Holy Spirit – the unforgivable sin!

In order to reap Jesus’ salvific benefits, one must be united to him.  This is what the Church celebrates on the Solemnity of Pentecost.  As the risen Savior and Lord of all, Jesus pours out his Father’s Holy Spirit upon the Church so that all who believe in him and are baptized become new creations in him by sharing in his risen and glorious Spirit-filled life.

This communion with the risen Jesus finds its fullest earthly expression in the Eucharist.  There the faithful share in his one saving sacrifice and partake of Jesus’ risen body and blood. The great mystery of the Eucharist is what the Church celebrates yearly on the Solemnity of Corpus Christ.  We become one body in Christ.

This feast, too, declares the singularity and primacy of Jesus.  No other religion contains such a marvelous truth, for no other religion has a founder to whom one is so united as to be in communion with God the Father through the indwelling Spirit.

So, we end where we began, with the Solemnity of Christ the King.  This feast anticipates the heavenly liturgy, a solemnity that will never end, for we await the coming of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, at the end of time, when we will share fully in his resurrection and ascend to our Father.  Then, in the Holy Spirit, every knee shall bend and every tongue shall proclaim that Jesus Christ alone is Lord to the glory of God the Father!

*Image: Christ Blessing (The Saviour of the World) by El Greco (Domenikos Theotokopoulos), c. 1600 [Scottish National Gallery, Edinburgh]

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Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, Cap.

Fr. Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, Cap.

Thomas G. Weinandy, OFM, a prolific writer and one of the most prominent living theologians, serves as a member of the Vatican’s International Theological Commission. His newest book is Jesus Becoming Jesus: A Theological Interpretation of the Synoptic Gospels.

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“Ringa da bell!” The elderly Italian Monsigor always told me as we were about to leave the sacristy to begin the celebration of Mass. I fell in love with bells at an early age and I still love to hear them. The church next to my residence had not repaired the church’s bells for some years and I pestered the Pastor until he had them repaired. Now the bells sing the praises of Our Blessed Mother and her Son throughout the day. Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit !!!

  OCT. 1, 2019An Exorcist Explains Why the Devil Hates Bells So Much“The devil hates everything beautiful and the bells are specifically used to draw attention to the divine worship of God.”

Patti Armstrong

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/armstrong/an-exorcist-explains-why-the-devil-hates-bells

“The devil hates bells,” a deacon involved in the deliverance ministry recently told my husband and me. He is actually our daughter’s father-in-law, so it was just a casual conversation—or at least for us.

I had never heard of the bell-aversion, so during my next interview with an exorcist — this one from the mountain West — I asked about it. Father Theophilus (which means “loved of God” but it is not his real name because exorcists usually need to keep their identity secret) confirmed it. “Devils hate bells,” he said. “I use them in sessions all the time. I have a nicely-toned consecration bell that I use.”

The devil has screamed, “Knock it off!” at the sound of bells during exorcisms and tried to knock them out of his hand. The Rite of Exorcism uses prayers and holy water, but Father Theophilus also brings many tools into the fight against evil such as music, chants, sacred art, a team of prayer warriors, holy water and blessed bells to overwhelm the devil.

“Why bells?” I asked.

“Satan is always attacking us through our senses,” he said. “So the liturgy itself needs to be a holy assault on our senses: our sight, our touch, our smells and hearing. We have prayed as a Church with all these sensual things, because she learned through millennia that this is what repels the enemy.”

Father Theophilus uses his altar or sanctus handheld bells. “When these consecrated bells are used at Mass it is to say, ‘Look at him, the Word made Flesh!’” he said. “The bell humiliates the devil because it’s a non-rational object that is doing what they were made to do. They don’t want to adore God.”

Another reason the devil hates bells is because they hate everything beautiful and holy, according to Father Theophilus. “We are moved by beauty,” he said. “It stirs our souls—beautiful music, beautiful prayers, flowers, beautiful tones… the devil hates everything beautiful and the bells are specifically used to draw attention to the divine worship of God.”

It is customary to bless everything involved in the liturgy and to bless the church bells also, Father Theophilus said. “Blessings makes things holy — set apart for God. Everything in the liturgy needs to be set apart for God.”

Just as the sanctus bells give glory to God, so too does the ringing of church bells, whether the church has an old cast-iron bell or an electronic recording, Father Theophilus explained. Both can be blessed. “Traditionally, church bells called us to prayer,” he said. “If you have an Angelus app on your phone, a bell will ring to alert you.”

The Angelus is a Catholic prayer originating with an 11th-century monastic custom. Church bells called people at 6 a.m., 12 noon, and 6 p.m. to pray the Angelus—Latin for “angel.” People stopped what they were doing, knelt down and prayed. The Angelus commemorates the Incarnation when the Angel Gabriel declared to the Virgin Mary, and she responded: “Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done unto me according to Thy word.” And the Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us.

A Blessing of Bells

Here is a very beautiful blessing of the bells at St. Maria Goretti in Westfield, Indiana, which was done in 2017.

Tonight, we as God’s people, ask God to bless and set aside these five bells, which are to be installed beginning tomorrow morning, for use in this holy church, for his service and his use. May by the Holy Spirit, God make these five bells hallowed through our prayer this night. So that when these bells are tolled and rung in the future, the faithful may be invited and called to the House of God and to everlasting life.

May the Church’s faith and piety be made stronger whenever they hear its melodious peals. At the sound of these bells, may all evil spirits be driven far away!  May thunder and lightning, storm and tornado, hail and wind, and all kinds of evil be banished at the echoing of their sound. And may all evil flee at the sight of the holy cross that is engraved on each of them. May all evil and temptation flee at the sound of these bells.

Tonight, we ask that our Lord, Jesus Christ, himself, grant this for us. Take notice of the incredible spiritual weight that the bells are given. Tonight, they become instruments of God’s power, in the war between heaven and hell.

We pray tonight that whenever these bells may ring, may the ancient enemy take flight. May the Christian people unite and hear the call to faith. May the empire of Satan be terrified at their ringing. And may we as God’s people be strengthened as we are called together by these bells. May the sound of these bells be as pleasing to God as was Kind David’s playing of the harp in the Old Testament.

And as the peals of thunder frightened and drove away an army of enemies while Samuel slayed an unblemished lamb as a holocaust to the Eternal King, so too, when these bells ring in the clouds over St. Maria Goretti and Westfield, as we gather in this church for the Eucharistic banquet, the ultimate sacrifice of the Eternal King, may legions of angels stand watch and guard over the assembly of your holy Church, to protect us in body and spirit.

These bells will call down angels. Legions of them! God continues to watch over and protect his Church. These are no ordinary bells. And what we do tonight, is no ordinary blessing. And what we have built for God and am now close to completing, has eternal significance.

Let us remember this from now on, every time we hear a church bell or bells, whether it be here or anywhere, in the world. With each ring and each peal, a spiritual power is being given to us by our God. May each ringing bell remind us to thank him for the many blessings in our lives.

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LET’S GET IT STRAIGHT: Pope Benedict DID NOT RESIGN THE OFFICE OF PETER, HE RESIGNED THE OFFICE OF MINISTRY BUT NOT THE OFFICE OF MUNUS WHICH MEANS THAT HE REMAINS POPE.

Catholic Monitor

http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com/2019/12/canon-law-expert-br-bugnolo-responding.html?m=1

Saturday, December 07, 2019

Canon Law Expert Br. Bugnolo responding to Fr. Belland agreed that Pope Benedict’s Renunciation was Valid, but he didn’t Resign the Office of Peter

Canon law and Latin language expert Br. Alexis Bugnolo and Fr. D. Belland had an informative exchange on the From Rome website comment section in which Br. Bugnolo responding to Fr. Belland apparently agreed that Pope Benedict XVI’s renunciation was valid, but Belland is wrong in thinking he resigned the Office of Peter instead of only the “ministry”:

Dear Brother, 

Who will do the sorting and by what means are the Bishops in union with Rome going to be determined under your proposal? 

Two items must be addressed:  first is that while you seemed to agree with the application of Virtue of Equity in my essay just sent you, saying you didn’t initially understand how it fit into the picture, which Equity is a means of correcting a law or laws (which would do harm regarding a situation unforeseen by the Law Giver).  In this case those Laws demanding a resignation from the MUNUS, which as they stood, if observed would prevent the Pontiff, operating under the most difficult circumstances–diabolical, from maintaining the Papacy from the enemies of the Church; furthermore, if he had been murdered or actually resigned it would have been a success for Satan, who had infiltrated the Church–there was probably no third choice without Equity other than full resignation or being murdered. 

Secondly, if Fr. Belland is able to read correctly what Benedict said in his Renunciation Declaration (and I ask any capable Latinist to show where the explanation of my translation is wrong)–that document being one brilliant piece of Latin for the good of the Church, but the Cardinals, for whatever reason, did not understand what he did, the onus falls on them–not on Benedict.  But Benedict knew what he was doing; he even stated publicly that his resignation was in fact VALID (*”There is absolutely no doubt regarding the validity of my renunciation of the Petrine ministry,*” the retired pope wrote in a letter to Andrea Tornielli, a Vatican correspondent for the newspaper La Stampa and the website Vatican Insider.).  Benedict is implicitely being called a liar when his words are interpreted to mean something other than what he says, i.e., telling him he’s wrong. The onus, Brother, is on you to prove that Benedict was lying or to ask him how his renunciation was valid instead of lecturing to him about his invalid resignation: 

The correct forensic principle, which a canonist SHOULD know, is that what some/one/says is prima facie what he means, and he who claims that the intention was such as to make it other than prima facie IS REQUIRED TO PROVE HIS INTERPRETATION by a first hand DENIAL of the prima facie.  (From your own blog, Brother:  Benedict said in every way that He did not resign! — An Examination of His Testimonies).

I ask you, Brother, to address precisely HOW Equity cannot be used in Benedict’s case; certainly no Law Maker, in his right mind, is going to issue a law which forbids the use of Equity, truly an institution in Canon Law from the beginning.  Please show me where Amleto Giovanni Cicognani is wrong in his text book: /Canon Law–/I believe I sent you a copy of the whole section on Equity from his book/, /and also where St. Thomas Aquinas in the Summa is wrong about the Virtue of Equity. 

God bless and Our Lady protect you always, Father Belland
[https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2019/09/17/how-to-remove-bergoglio/ ]

Br. Bugnolo responding to Fr. Belland:

Dear Father, the problem you address is one of semantics. Because if one looks at Non Solum Propter as a Papal resignation, then one says that as such it is invalid per canon 188 on account of lacking the proper object of the act. However, as I said in my disputed question’s Respondeo, IF one says that it is a renunciation of ministerium, to prepare for a retirement while retaining the office, then it is not invalid, but valid. Nevertheless, it does not have the effect of the loss of office. — As much as I understand the concept of equity, the Pope, since he can validly renounce the papal office, can thus validly renounce any part of the papal prerogatives and keep the rest WHEN there is grave cause and a circumstance not foreseen by the law. In this case, as I explained in my article, How Benedict has defeated “Francis”, a few days ago, the threat to assassinate him if he did not resign and his realization of how evil his enemies were, put him in seemingly a situation from which he could not escape: die and let them take the office, or live and renounce the office and let them take the office. Acting, as I believe, for the good of the Church and to PROTECT the papal office, and KNOWING from his doctors or perhaps by special revelation, that he would outlive Bergoglio, he posited an act of retirement but packaged it with the box and ribbons of a resignation of office, so as to deceive the St Gallen Mafia. I previously considered this possibility but discounted it as gravely immoral, even until recently. It was not until I read the article about Benedict offering the Secretary of State to Bergoglio in 2005 that I began to unravel the politics behind the decade old struggle of Church and AntiChurch of which Pope John Paul II spoke.

However, you are correct in saying that it is not an act of resignation, and that therefore, speaking in the proper sense, it is a valid act of renunciation of ministry, which does not effect the loss of office. I have habitually called it an act of resignation which is invalid, in an improper sense, because I was responding to the Big Lie which has gripped the Church, more principally, than examining the act per se.
[https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2019/09/17/how-to-remove-bergoglio/ ]

Br. Bugnolo says the only correct way to approach the validity or invalidity of Pope Benedict XVI’s resignation of the papacy is an objective reading of what the two words ministerium and munus mean by means of using canon 17’s criteria and not a subjective reading of what the two words may possibly have meant in the mind of Benedict:

“Canon 17 requires that Canon 332 S2 be read in accord with the meaning of canon 145 S1  and canon 41… requires that ministerium and munus be understood as referring to two different things.”
(From Rome, “Ganswein, Brandmuller & Burke: Please read Canon 17, February 14, 2019)

He has explained in overwhelming detail in the following treatise using canon law why canonists are wrong in saying ministerium and munus are synonyms that mean the exact same thing or nearly the exact same thing:

https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2019/10/31/munus-and-ministerium-a-canonical-study/

Munus and Ministerium: A Textual Study of their Usage
in the Code of Canon Law of 1983

by Br. Alexis Bugnolo
The study of Canon Law is a recondite field for nearly everyone in the Church except Canon Lawyers. And even for Canon Lawyers, most of whom are prepared to work in the Marriage Tribunals of the Church, most of the Code of Canon Law is not frequently referred to.

However, when it comes to the problems of determining the validity of a canonical act, the expertise among Canon Lawyers becomes even more difficult to find, since the circumstances and problems in a single canonical act touch upon a great number of Canons of the Code of Canon Law, and thus require the profound knowledge and experience of years of problem solving to be readily recognized.

For this reason, though popularly many Catholics are amazed that after 6 years there can still be questions and doubts about the validity of the Act of Renunciation declared by Pope Benedict XVI on February 11, 2013, it actually is not so surprising when one knows just a little about the complexity of the problems presented by the document which contains that Act.

First of all, the Latin of the Act, which is the only official and canonical text, is rife with errors of Latin Grammar. All the translations of the Act which have ever been done, save for a few, cover those errors with a good deal of indulgence, because it is clear that whoever wrote the Latin was not so fluent in writing Latin as they thought, a thing only the experts at such an art can detect.

Even myself, who have translated thousands of pages of Latin into English, and whose expertise is more in making Latin intelligible as read, than in writing intelligible Latin according to the rules of Latin grammar can see this. However, we are not talking about literary indulgences when we speak of the canonical value or signification of a text.

For centuries it was a constant principle of interpretation, that if a canonical act in Latin contained errors it was not to be construed as valid, but had to be redone. Unfortunately for the Church, Cardinal Sodano and whatever Cardinals or Canonists examined the text of the Act prior to the public announcement of its signification utterly failed on this point, as will be seen during this conference.

This is because if there are multiple errors or any error, the Cardinal was allowed and even obliged under canons 40 and 41 to ask that the text be corrected.

This evening, however, we are not going to talk about the lack of good Latinity in the text of the Act nor of the other errors which make the text unintelligible to fluent Latinists who think like the Romans of Cicero’s day when they see Latin written, but rather, of the signification of Canon 332 §2, in its fundamental clause of condition, where it says in the Latin, Si contingat ut Romanus Pontifex muneri suo renuntiet, which in good English is, If it happen that the Roman Pontiff renounce his munus….The entire condition for a Papal Renunciation of Office in the Code of Canon Law promulgated by Pope John Paul II is founded on this first clause of Canon 332 §2.  It behooves us, therefore, when any say that the Renunciation was valid or invalid, to first read this Canon and understand when a renunciation takes place and when it does not take place.

For this purpose, in this first intervention at this Conference, I will speak about the meaning of the two words, Munus and Ministerium, in the Code of Canon Law.  I will speak of both, because, in Canon 332 §2 Pope John Paul II wrote munus and in the Act of Renunciation, Pope Benedict XVI renounced ministerium.

This study is not an idle one, or even only of academic interest. It is required by Canon Law, because in Canon 17, it says, that when there arises a doubt about the signification of a canon, one is to have recourse to the Code of Canon Law, the sources of canonical tradition and the Mind of the Legislator (Pope John Paul II) in determining the authentic meaning.

According to Canon 17 the words of Canoon 332 §2, therefore, are to be understood properly. Therefore, let us examine the Code to see what is the proper meaning of the words munus and ministerium.

Ministerium in the Code of Canon Law

This study is something everyone with the Internet can do. Because there exists an indexed copy of the Latin text of the Code on line at Intratext.com.  In the Alphabetic index of which one can find hyperlinked, all the words found in the Code, in their different Latin forms.For the word Ministerium, there are 6 forms found:  Ministeria, Ministerii, Ministeriis, Ministerio, Ministeriorum, Ministerium.  Respectively they occur 7, 13, 3, 17, 3, 25 times each in the Code.Let us take a look at each, briefly.Ministeria
The Nominative and Accusative Plural:  Occurs 7 times. In canons 230, 232, 233,  237, 385, 611 and 1035.  Each of these refer to one or more of the sacred ministries or services exercised during the Divine Liturgy, whether by priests, lectors, acolytes etc..Ministerii:
The Genitive. Occurs 13 times.  In canons 233 twice, 276, 278, 519, 551, 756, 759, 1370, 1373, 1375 1389, 1548.  These refer to the sacred service (canons 233, in canon 271 §2, 1, to the duties of the pastoral ministry (ministerii pastoralis  officia as in canon 276, 278 or 551) which sanctify the priest, and specifically in relation to munus in several canons:In Canon 519, where it says of the duties of the Pastor of a Parish:

Can. 519 – Parochus est pastor proprius paroeciae sibi commissae, cura pastorali communitatis sibi concreditae fungens sub auctoritate Episcopi dioecesani, cuius in partem ministerii Christi vocatus est, ut pro eadem communitate munera exsequatur docendi, sanctificandi et regendi, cooperantibus etiam aliis presbyteris vel diaconis atque operam conferentibus christifidelibus laicis, ad normam iuris.

Which in English is:

Canon 519:  The parish priest is the pastor of the parish assigned to him, exercising (fungens) the pastoral care of the community entrusted to him under the authority of the Diocesan Bishop, in a portion of whose ministry in Christ (in partem ministerii Chirsti) he has been called, so that he might execute (exsequatur) the munera of teaching, sanctifying and ruling for the same community, with the cooperation also of the other priests and/or deacons and faithful laity assisting in the work, according to the norm of law.

Let us note, first of all, that here the Code distinguishes between the munera of teaching, santifying and ruling from the entire ministry of Christ a part of which is shared by the Bishop.And again in Canon 756, when it speaks of the munus of  announcing the Gospel, it says, after speaking of the duty of the Roman Pontiff in this regard in conjunction with the College of Bishops:

756 § 2.  Quoad Ecclesiam particularem sibi concreditam illud munus exercent singuli Episcopi, qui quidem totius ministerii verbi in eadem sunt moderatores; quandoque vero aliqui Episcopi coniunctim illud explent quoad diversas simul Ecclesias, ad normam iuris.

Which in English is:

756 §2  In regard to the particular Church entrusted to him, every Bishop, who is indeed the moderater of the whole ministry of the word to it, exercises (exercent) this munus; but also when any Bishop fulfills that conjointly in regard to the diverse Churches, according to the norm of law.

Let us note here simply that the Code distinguishes between the exercise of a munus and the ministerium of preaching the word.

Again in canon 759, ministerii is used regarding the preaching of the word. In Canon 1370 it is used in reference to the contempt of ecclesiastical power or ministry. In canon 1373, it is spoken of in regard the an act of ecclesiastical power or ministry. In canon 1548 in regard to the exercise of the sacred ministry of the clergy.

In canon 1389, it is spoken of in the context of power, munus and ministry. Let us take a closer look:

Can. 1389 – § 1.  Ecclesiastica potestate vel munere abutens pro actus vel omissionis gravitate puniatur, non exclusa officii privatione, nisi in eum abusum iam poena sit lege vel praecepto constituta.
2. Qui vero, ex culpabili neglegentia, ecclesiasticae potestatis vel ministerii vel muneris actum illegitime cum damno alieno ponit vel omittit, iusta poena puniatur.

Which in English is:

Canon 1389 §1  Let the one abusing Ecclesiastical power and/or munus be punished in proportion to the gravity of the act and/or omission, not excluding privation of office, unless for that abuse there has already been established a punishment by law and/or precept.
2. However, Let him who, out of culpable negligence, illegitimately posits and/or omits an act of ecclesiastical power and/or ministry and/or of munus, with damage to another, be punished with a just punishment.

Let us note here that the Code in a penal precept distinguishes between: potestas, ministerium and munus. This implies that in at least one proper sense of each of these terms, they can be understood to signify something different or distinct from the other.This finishes the study of the occurences of ministerii.Ministeriis
The ablative and dative plural form. Occurs 3 times.   In canons 274 and 674, where it refers to the sacred ministry of the priesthood and to the ministries exercised in parish life, respectively.And in Canon 1331 §1, 3, where the one excommunicated is forbidden to exercise all ecclesiastical duties (officiis) and/or ministries and/or munera (muneribus) The Latin is:

Can. 1331 – § 1.  Excommunicatus vetatur:
1 ullam habere participationem ministerialem in celebrandis Eucharistiae Sacrificio vel  quibuslibet aliis cultus caerimoniis;
2 sacramenta vel sacramentalia celebrare et sacramenta recipere;
3 ecclesiasticis officiis vel ministeriis vel muneribus quibuslibet fungi vel actus regiminis ponere.

The English  is:Canon 1331 §1.  An excommunicate is forbidden:

  1. from having any ministerial participation in the celebrating of the Sacrifice of the Eucharist and/or in any other ceremonies of worship
  2. from celebrating the Sacraments and/or sacramentals and from receiving the Sacraments;
  3. from exercising (fungi) ecclesiastical officia and/or ministeria and/or munera and/or from positing acts of governance.

Let us note again, that the Code distinguishes in this negative precept the terms Officia, Ministeria and Munera. This means, very significantly, that in the Mind of the Legislator, there is a proper sense in which these terms can each be understood as excluding the other. All three are named to make the signification of the negative precept comprehensive of all possible significations.Ministerio
The Ablative and Dative singular form. Occurs 17 times. Canons 252, 271, 281, 386 refer to the ministries exercised in the liturgy or apostolate. Canon 545 uses ministerio in reference to the pastoral ministry being proffered, 548 likewise in reference to the pastor of a parish, 559 likewise. Canon 713 refers to the priestly ministry, canons 757, 760 and 836 to the ministry of the word. Canon 899 to the priestly ministry of Christ. Canon 1036 speaks of the need a Bishop has to have knowledge that a candidate for ordination has a willingness to dedicate himself to the life long service which is the duty of orders.Canon 1722, which has to deal with canonical trials, speaks again of the sacred ministerium, officium and munus exercised (arcere) of the one accused. Distinguishing all three terms to make a comprehensive statement of what can be interdicted by a penalty.This far for the 17 instances of ministerio.Ministeriorum
The genitive plural form. Occurs 3 times. In canon 230 in regard to the conferral of ministries of acolyte and lector upon laymen. In canon 499 in regard to having members of the Presbyteral Council of the Diocese include priests with a variety of ministries exercised all over the diocese. And in canon 1050, in regard to those to be ordained, that they have a document showing they have willingly accepted a live long ministry in sacred service.And finally the Nominative Singular form.MINISTERIUM
Of which there are 25 occurrences in the Code.
First and most significantly in Canon 41, the very canon that Cardinal Sodano had to act upon when examining the Act of Renunciation by Pope Benedict.The Latin reads:

Can. 41 — Exsecutor actus administrativi cui committitur merum exsecutionis ministerium, exsecutionem huius actus denegare non potest, nisi manifesto appareat eundem actum esse nullum aut alia ex gravi causa sustineri non posse aut condiciones in ipso actu administrativo appositas non esse adimpletas; si tamen actus administrativi exsecutio adiunctorum personae aut loci ratione videatur inopportuna, exsecutor exsecutionem intermittat; quibus in casibus statim certiorem faciat auctoritatem quae actum edidit.

The English reads:

Canon 41: The executor of an administrative act to whom there has been committed the mere ministry (ministerium) of execution, cannot refuse execution of the act, unless the same act appears to be null from (something) manifest [manifesto] or cannot be sustained for any grave cause or the conditions in the administrative act itself do not seem to be able to have been fulfilled: however, if the execution of the administrative act seems inopportune by reason of place or adjoined persons, let the executor omit the execution; in which cases let him immediately bring the matter to the attention of (certiorem faciat) the authority which published the act.

Then, ministerium occurs again in canon 230, in reference to the ministry of the word, where officia is used in the sense of duties. In canon 245, in regard to the pastoral ministry and teaching missionaries the ministry. In Canon 249 again in regard to the pastoral ministry, in 255 in regard to the ministry of teaching, sanctifying etc.., in 256, 257, 271, 324 in regard to the sacred ministry of priests, in Canon 392 in regard to the ministries of the word. In Canon 509 in regard to the ministry exercised by the Canons of the Cathedral Chapter. In Canon 545 in regard to the parish ministry, in canon 533 in regard to the ministry exercised by a Vicar. In canons 618 and 654 in regard to the power received by religious superiors through the ministry of the Church. In Canon 1025, 1041, and 1051 to the usefulness of a candidate for orders for service (ministerium) to the Church. In Canon 1375 to those who exercise power and/or ecclesiastical ministry.Ministerium occurs significantly in canon 1384, regard to the penalites a priest can incurr.

Can. 1384 – Qui, praeter casus, de quibus in cann. 1378-1383, sacerdotale munus vel aliud sacrum ministerium illegitime exsequitur, iusta poena puniri potest.

Which in English is:

Canon 1384  Who, besides the cases, concerning which in canons 1378 to 1383 the priestly munus and/or any other sacred ministerium is illegitimately executed, can be punished with a just punishment.

The Code explicitly distinguishes between munus and ministerium as entirely different and or distinct aspects of priestly being and action.To finish off, the Code mentions Ministerium, again in Canon 1481 in regard to the ministry of lawyers, 1502 and 1634 to the ministry of judges, and in 1740 to ministry of the pastor of a parish.This completes the entire citation of the Code on the word Ministry in all its Latin Forms, singular and plural.In summation, we can see already that the Code distinguishes between proper senses of ministerium and munus, habitually throughout its canons and uses ministerium always for a service to be rendered by a layman, priest, Bishop, lawyer, judge or to or by the Church Herself. It never uses ministerium as an office or title or dignity or charge.

Munus in the Code of Canon Law

Munus is a very common term in the Code of Canon Law, occurring a total of 188 times.The Latin forms which appear in the Code are Munus (77 times), Muneris (26 times), Muneri (2 times), Munere (48 times), Munera (20 times) Munerum (6 times) and Muneribus (9 times).While the length of this conference does not me to cite them all, I will refer to the most important occurrences.I will omit citing Canon 331, 333, 334 and 749, where speaking of the Papal Office, the code uses the words Munus. In no other canons does it speak of the Papal office per se, except in Canon 332 §2, which governs Papal renunciations, where it also uses munus.But as to the proper sense of munus in the Code, let us look at the most significant usages:First as regards predication, where the Mind of the Legislator indicates when any given proper sense of this term can be said to be a another term.This occurs only once in canon 145, §1

Can. 145 – § 1. Officium ecclesiasticum est quodlibet munus ordinatione sive divina sive ecclesiastica stabiliter constitutum in finem spiritualem exercendum.

Which in English is:

Canon 145 § 1. An ecclesiastical office (officium) is any munus constituted by divine or ecclesiastical ordinance as to be exercised for a spiritual end.

Second, as regards the canons governing the events of Feb. 11, 2013, there is  Canon 40, which Cardinal Sodano and his assistants had to refer to in the moments following the Consistory of Feb 11, 2013:

Can. 40 — Exsecutor alicuius actus administrativi invalide suo munere fungitur, antequam litteras receperit earumque authenticitatem et integritatem recognoverit, nisi praevia earundem notitia ad ipsum auctoritate eundem actum edentis transmissa fuerit.

In English:

Canon 40: The executor of any administrative act invalidly conducts his munus (suo munero), before he receives the document (letteras) and certifies (recognoverit) its integrity and authenticity, unless previous knowledge of it has been transmitted to him by the authority publishing the act itself.

Third, as regards to the distinction of munus and the fulfillment of a duty of office, there is Canon 1484, §1 in regard to the offices of Procurator and Advocate in a Tribunal of Eccleisastical Jurisdiction:

Can. 1484 – § 1.  Procurator et advocatus antequam munus suscipiant, mandatum authenticum apud tribunal deponere debent.

Which in English is:

Canon 1484 §1.  The procurator and advocate ought to deposit a copy of their authentic mandate with the Tribunal, before they undertake their munus.

Note here, significantly, that the Code associates the mandate to exercise an office with the undertaking of the munus (munus). Negatively, therefore, what is implied by this canon is that when one lays down his mandate, there is a renunciation of the munus.Finally, in regard to possibile synonyms for munus, in the Code we have Canon 1331, §2, n. 4, which is one of the most significant in the entire code, as we shall see: There is forbidden the promotion of those who are excommunicated:

4 nequit valide consequi dignitatem, officium aliudve munus in Ecclesia

Which in English reads:

  1. He cannot validly obtain a dignity, office and/or any munus in the Church.

If there was every any doubt about the Mind of the Legislator of the proper sense of terms in the Code of Canon law regarding what Munus means, this canon answers it by equating dignity, office and munus as things to which one cannot be promoted!Note well, ministerium is not included in that list!  thus Ministerium does not signify a dignity, office or munus!This study of Munis and Ministerium in the Code thus concludes, for the lack of time. We have seen that the Code distinguishes clearly between the terms of officium, munus, ministerium, potestas and dignitas. It predicates officium of munus alone, It equates dignitas and munus and officium. It distinguishes between potestas and ministerium.The only sane conclusion is, therefore, that munus and ministerium are distinct terms with different meanings. They cannot substitute for one another in any sentence in which their proper senses are employed. Munus can substitute for officium, when officium means that which regards a title or dignity or ecclesiastical office.Thus in Canon 332 §2, where the Canon reads, Si contingat ut Romanus Pontifex muneri suo renuntiet. The Code is not speaking of ministerium, and if it is speaking of any other terms, it is speaking of a dignitas or officium. But the papal office is a dignitas, officium and a munus.  thus Canon 332 §2 is using munus in its proper sense and referring to the papal office.——(This is a transcript of my first talk at the Conference on the Renunciation of Pope Benedict XVI, which took place at Rome on Oct 21, 2019, the full transcript of which is found here)

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary. 

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Pope Francis Compares Trump to Herod, Who Tried to Kill Jesus

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ROME — Pope Francis has compared U.S. President Donald Trump to the murderous King Herod who massacred innocent children in ancient Palestine while trying to kill the baby Jesus, a Jesuit journal revealed Thursday.

Speaking with his brother Jesuits during his recent visit to Thailand, the Argentinian pope minced no words in his thinly veiled condemnation of the U.S. president and his administration, suggesting that like a modern-day Herod, Mr. Trump separates families at the border while allowing drugs to freely flow into the country.

“In other parts there are walls that even separate children from parents. Herod comes to mind,” Francis said. “Yet for drugs, there’s no wall to keep them out.”

“The phenomenon of migration is compounded by war, hunger and a ‘defensive mindset,’ which makes us in a state of fear believe that you can defend yourself only by strengthening borders. At the same time, there is exploitation.”

In this Q&A session, the pontiff also proposed that the rise of populism is at the root of migrants’ problems in Europe.

“I must admit that I am shocked by some of the narratives I hear in Europe about borders,” the pope said. “Populism is gaining strength.”

“The phenomenon of refugees has always existed, but today it is better known because of social differences, hunger, political tensions and especially war. For these reasons, migratory movements are intensifying,” he said.

“What is the answer the world gives? The policy of waste,” he continued. “Refugees are waste material. The Mediterranean has been turned into a cemetery. The notorious cruelty of some detention centers in Libya touches my heart.”

“The Christian tradition has a rich evangelical experience in dealing with the problem of refugees. We also remember the importance of welcoming the foreigner as the Old Testament teaches us,” he said.

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IT WILL BE A POLITICAL MIRACLE IF Donald Trump SURVIVES THE THE FORTHCOMING IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IN THE SENATE. HE MUST WIN THE BATTLE AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS AND ALSO THE BATTLE AGAINST SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL. IF ANYONE CAN DO IT Donald Trump IS THAT PERSON, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE CLOSE, SO CLOSE THAT Las Vegas IS PROBABLY BETTING AGAINST HIM.

The Senate and Impeachment Dynamic…

Posted on December 5, 2019 by sundance

As the House impeachment of President Donald Trump becomes more of a forgone political conclusion it’s worth considering what terms and conditions Senate Leader Mitch McConnell will extract in order to preserve a Trump Presidency.

Most political pundits will not correctly outline the status of the possibilities, because most political pundits are willfully blind to the structure of the McConnell Senate.

First, McConnell doesn’t care about holding a majority position in the Senate.  Whether he is a majority leader or a minority leader doesn’t matter to McConnell. In fact McConnell’s political skill-set does better in the minority than the majority.

The preferred political position for Mitch McConnell is where he has between 45 and 49 republican Senators, and the Democrats hold the Majority with around 55.  Of course with Reid’s retirement, this would now be with Majority leader Chuck Schumer holding office.

Why does McConnell prefer the minority position?

The answer is where you have had to actually follow Mitch McConnell closely to see how he works.   When the Majority has around 52 to 55 seats, they need McConnell to give them 8 to 9 votes to overcome the three-fifths (60 vote) threshold for their legislative needs.  It is in the process of trade and payment for those 8 to 9 votes where McConnell makes more money, and holds more power, than as a sitting Majority Leader.

The 60 vote threshold, and McConnell’s incredible skillset in the minority, is where he shines.  Each of the needed votes to achieve sixty is worth buckets of indulgence to the minority leader.  This is why McConnell never changed the Senate rules for legislative passage.

Except for budget passage (reconciliation); and McConnell being forced by intransigence in the era of Trump resistance to change the judicial vote threshold to 51; McConnell would never consider changing the legislative threshold to a simple majority because it would be removing his favored position.  A simple majority vote is adverse to his interests; that’s why he retained it during his reign as majority leader; as did Harry Reid before him.

The vote selling to the 60 vote threshold in the Senate is where the UniParty operates; and where the status of maximum financial benefit for the minority exists.

Currently, as majority leader, McConnell needs to purchase eight or nine votes for each legislative priority.

Mitch McConnell doesn’t like being the purchaser, he prefers being the vote seller where his skill-set as a broker really shines.  McConnell is much better at extracting terms for his vote sales, than being the purchaser for the votes of an intransigent minority wing. This is why the current Senate doesn’t pass many bills.

If Democrats were in the majority, and McConnell was the minority leader, we would see much more legislation pass because Schumer is a more well financed buyer (K-Street) and McConnell is a much better seller.  Whenever we have this minority dynamic it always leaves people confused because few really watch what McConnell is doing.

McConnell takes his favorite twenty controlled GOP senators and brokers their votes on an ‘as needed’ basis.  The eight to ten senators he selects each time get compensated in the process.  McConnell rotates the financial beneficiaries on a bill-by-bill basis.  As a consequence each of the 20 or so McConnell senators gets quite wealthy over time, and McConnell gains additional power and influence.

If any of the republican Senators attempt to disrupt this UniParty business model McConnell excommunicates them from the legislative process; the best reference for the ‘incommunicado’ approach is former U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC).

Additional references for how McConnell operates this scheme as the Minority Leader can be found in the Corker-Cardin amendment which allowed the Iran nuclear deal/payments under Obama; and/or the “fast track” Trade Promotion Authority deal for TPP passage, again for President Obama’s maximum benefit.   In these examples McConnell worked with Harry Reid to flip the vote threshold from votes to approve, to votes needed to deny.

Within TPP Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was again working on the priorities of U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue.   McConnell and Donohue have been working together on UniParty trade and domestic legislative issues for around twenty years. It is well established that Senate Leader Mitch McConnell has one major career alliance that has been unbroken and unchanged for well over two decades. That alliance is with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and specifically with CoC President Tom Donohue.

CoC President Tom Donohue represents Wall Street interests and supports: all multinational trade deals, open-border immigration policies, amnesty legislative constructs, and all of the issues that have generally irked common-sense GOP voters for the same period of time. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE].

Tom Donohue is the biggest lobbyist spender in DC every year, by a mile.

To remind ourselves how Minority and Majority Senator McConnell took down the threat of the Tea Party revisit these old articles CNN Part I and CNN Part II  both showcase how McConnell works.   Then do some research on how McConnell worked with Haley Barbour in Mississippi [SEE HERE].

So the reason for outlining this Senate dynamic is simply to remind everyone that with a Senate impeachment trial coming up, it’s not the 2020 campaign to hold a majority in the senate that matters to Mitch McConnell.  If McConnell can rid himself of Tom Donohue’s nemesis, President Trump, and simultaneously return to his preferred and more lucrative position as minority leader, he would be quite happy.

The first opportunity for leverage over the White House will come in the shape of the Senate “rules of impeachment”.  The senate will have wide latitude in how they set-up the processes and procedures for the trial – and McConnell never misses an opportunity to leverage a “get” from his senate position.

So what will the White House need to give McConnell… or what will McConnell’s ask be, in order to protect the office of the president?  Here’s where you have to remember Tom Donohue and the Wall St priorities.

McConnell (subtext Donohue) would prefer the confrontation with China be eliminated and the tariffs dropped.  Is that too big an “ask”?  Would the White House sell/trade McConnell a China deal for better impeachment terms?

All of these are questions worth pondering now, because there’s no doubt they are being discussed amid those in DC sitting on the comfy Corinthian wing-backs and gleefully rubbing their hands around a well polished mahogany table….

….There are trillions at stake !

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THE IDENTITY OF THE BISHOPS WHO SABOTAGED THE BEATIFICATION OF ARCHBISHOP FULTON SHEEN IS NOW KNOWN

ROCHESTER DIOCESE ISSUES FALSE STATEMENT

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Fails to mention Bp. Matano’s letter objecting to beatification

ROCHESTER, N.Y. (ChurchMilitant.com) – A new statement from the diocese of Rochester, New York paints a false picture of its role in halting Ven. Abp. Fulton Sheen’s beatification.

Two days after the diocese of Peoria, Illinois announced that the Holy See is placing Sheen’s beatification on indefinite hold, the diocese of Rochester issued a statement Thursday clarifying its own actions with regard to his cause:

The Diocese of Rochester, prior to any announcements of the beatification, provided the Diocese of Peoria and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints through the Office of the Apostolic Nuncio with documentation that expressed concern about advancing the cause for the beatification of Archbishop Sheen at this time without a further review of his role in priests’ assignments. …

The Diocese of Rochester did its due diligence in this matter and believed that, while not casting suspicion, it was prudent that Archbishop Sheen’s cause receive further study and deliberation, while also acknowledging the competency of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints to render its decision. The Holy See ultimately decided to postpone the beatification.

While the statement does not go into details, reports on Wednesday confirmed the objections revolved around former priest Gerard Guli, who served in Rochester in the early 1960s and was accused of abuse in 1963, and afterwards transferred to the diocese of Wheeling-Charleston, West Virginia. All of this took place before Sheen arrived as bishop of Rochester in 1966.

Rochester’s current bishop, Salvatore Matano, had sent the documentation on Guli to Rome earlier this summer, which was thoroughly examined by the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, with Sheen cleared of all wrondoing. The evidence showed that Sheen had never assigned Guli to any priestly ministry before, during or after Sheen’s tenure in Rochester.

When questioned, Guli himself confirmed that Sheen had never given him an assignment.

Thus cleared, the Vatican announced on Nov. 18 that Sheen’s beatification was approved and would be scheduled for Dec. 21.

Church Militant has confirmed with inside sources that Matano immediately sent a letter the next day to the papal nuncio, Abp. Christophe Pierre, strongly objecting to Sheen’s beatification.

This letter is never mentioned in the diocese’s Thursday statement, which gave the false impression that Matano had never intervened after Rome announced Sheen’s beatification.

“The diocese of Rochester cannot support the beatification taking place as scheduled,” the Nov. 19 letter from Matano states. “It requires further study and examination.”

“Our diocese requires that the beatification be delayed,” the letter insists.Rochester’s statement gave the false impression that Matano had never intervened after Rome announced Sheen’s beatification.Tweet

In a veiled criticism of Bp. Daniel Jenky, Matano writes, “Peoria’s announcement is disturbing.”

“Rochester would be forthright in doing its due diligence if the press inquired about this,” he adds.

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Dec. 5 tweet with Vatican sources claiming “Sheen cause is over”

Matano’s Nov. 19 letter raises no new allegations against Sheen, but served as the catalyst to put a halt to Sheen’s beatification.

Sources also confirm that Matano would not have the clout on his own to block Sheen’s cause, but consulted with New York’s Cdl. Timothy Dolan, who lent his support, as well as Chicago’s Cdl. Blase Cupich, whose stature in Rome has grown ever since Pope Francis appointed him to lead the sex abuse summit in February.

Guli was accused of abuse of adults in 1963, and reassigned to the diocese of Wheeling-Charleston, West Virginia afterwards. His name was listed on the Rochester diocese’s roster of priests removed between 2002 and 2012. He was eventually laicized.

The Vatican has so far issued no statement addressing its decision to halt Sheen’s beatification, while Vaticanista Rocco Palmo, who is generally considered reliable, published a tweet claiming that sources say the “Sheen cause is over” — “read, permanently.”

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Can a papal renunciation be invalid? It has been amply proven that Pope John Paul II held that a papal renunciation could be invalid. If a papal renunciation could be invalid that means that objectively speaking it could be invalid. That means that it can be so recognized by men who are capable of knowing objective reality. That means that men should recognize it if it be, and should NOT harken to any propaganda to ignore the problem. Because, obviously, if Pope John Paul II wanted us to listen to propagandists who do not want us to see that a resignation was invalid when it was invalid, he would never have mentioned that there could be an invalid resignation.

Pope John Paul II admitted that a Papal Renunciation could be invalid

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by Br. Alexis Bugnolo

Don’t let anyone tell you to shut up, when you point out that some are saying the renunciation of Pope Benedict was or could be invalid.

Don’t let them coerce you by telling you that it is absurd to suppose that a Papal act be invalid.

Don’t let them get away with such a claim!

Why?

Because, no less that Pope John Paul II declared that a papal resignation could beinvalid!

First, the FACTS of the Laws

And not only declared, but he enshrined the possibility into the Papal Law on Conclaves: Universi dominici gregis, n. 3, where it says in Latin:

3. Praeterea statuimus, ne Cardinalium Collegium de iuribus Sedis Apostolicae Romanaeque Ecclesiae ullo modo disponere valeat, nedum de iis sive directe sive indirecte quidquam detrahat, quamvis agatur de componendis discidiis aut de persequendis factis adversus eadem iura perpetratis, post Pontificis obitum vel validam renuntiationem.(14) Curae autem sit omnibus Cardinalibus haec iura tueri.

Which in good English is:

3. Moreover, We establish, that the College of Cardinals not be able to dispose in any manner of the rights of the Apostolic See and Roman Church, much less to detract anything from them either directly or indirectly, even though it be done concerning the resolution of disputes or the prosecution of deeds perpetrated against the same rights, after the death and/or validrenunciation* of the Pontiff. (14) Moreover, let it belong to the care of all the Cardinals that these rights be watched over.

* The reference to a “valid renunciation” is to Canon 332 §2, which lays down 2 reasons for an invalid renunciation (lack of freedom in renouncing the petrine munus, and lack of due manifestation of the renunciation of the petrine munus).

Some would like to have it that Canon 332 §2 is merely laying down the requisites to be observed in a papal resignation, and that it does not exist to be used by anyone, let alone a layman, to discern or determine when a resignation is valid or not.

The assertion is a perfect form of gas-lighting: You cannot let the masses use the Code of Canon Law, you cannot let them read the Papal Law on Conclaves, but if they do, you must convince them that what they see does not mean what it says or that what they read there is something they cannot use in an argument or apply to any particular case!Thus might be the counsel of any modern day Screwtape to his Trad inc. minions.

This objective is supported by the absurd arguments being used to attack those who are examining the resignation, such as that argument evinced by Mr. Sammons the other day:

Eric Sammons@EricRSammons

As much as one might want to think Benedict XVI didn’t really resign, there’s three main problems:

1) What you want doesn’t matter.
2) It would mean Benedict is one of the most horrible people to ever live.
2) You have to accept some crazy-level conspiracy theories.3710:55 AM – Dec 3, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy20 people are talking about this

Evidently, if we take Mr. Sammons at his word, he must rail against Pope John Paul II, against the Papal Law on Conclaves and against the Code of Canon Law of 1983, all which admit the possibility of an invalid renunciation! — Evidently railing against Popes is o.k., so long as you recognize that they are popes. — This seems to be the new dogma of Trad Inc. Even though Catholic Tradition holds that in nothing can a pope be judged but faith.

Having seen this form of gas-lighting, we must begin to ask ourselves, “Whom we should listen to or obey? A Layman or Pope John Paul II?”

After all, to turn Mr. Sammon’s rhetoric against him: What does it matter what Mr. Sammons wants?

Second, the Implications of the Law

As it has been amply proven that Pope John Paul II held that a papal renunciation could be invalid, we should use the intellects God gave us to use and think about what that means. We should not let the gas-lighting false apostles, out there, stop us from thinking.

First, if a papal renunciation could be invalid. That means that objectively speaking it could be invalid. That means that it can be recognized by men who are capable of knowing objective reality. That means that men should recognize it if it be, and should NOT harken to any propaganda to ignore the problem. Because, obviously, if Pope John Paul II wanted us to listen to propagandists who do not want us to see that a resignation was invalid when it was invalid, he would never have mentioned that there could be an invalid resignation.

Second, that means that the Church has the duty to recognize an invalid resignation is invalid, since the Code of Canon Law binds everyone in the Church. The Papal Law on Conclaves binds the Cardinals, and so they are also obligated to recognize an invalid resignation is invalid.

Third. Now how is anyone to do that? Pope John Paul II shows us how in canons 40 and 41, where everyone in the Church who has an office is obliged to examine the administrative act of his superior to see if it is effective and authentic. Though canon 41 speaks only of acts which are null or inopportune, clearly an invalid resignation is both.

That means it was the duty of all the Cardinals as of 11:45 AM, February 11, 2013, when the Consistory ended (approximately, as I do not know the precise minute of termination) until today to examine the act. If the act was invalid, they were obliged to omit the Conclave, and if they find now that it is invalid, they are obliged to say the conclave was invalid.

CONCLUSION

So you see, now, how wrong Cardinal Burke was, when he condemned a whole category of Catholics as “extremists” if they doubted that Bergoglio was the pope. Because if that doubt arises from an invalid resignation, then they are not only NOT extremists, they are the most faithful Catholics in the Church, and they are doing what all Cardinals should have done and still refuse to do!

No, your Eminence, there are No Extremists here, but there are a lot of Presumptuous Princes!

Now almost no one in the Church is a canon lawyer, but a good number of the Cardinals are. And if you have studied canon law or civil law, then you know a general principle of law which is applicable in this case:

A cessation of power is never to be presumed!

As I mentioned early, this general principle of law is enshrined in Canon 21. It is really a summation of common sense. Because if one presumed the cessation of power, then the rule of law would break down, because presumption has a way of inclining to disorder and chaos.

Now a papal renunciation pertains to a cessation of power, as the learned and eminent Canonist I spoke with recently admitted. Therefore, we cannot presume a pope has validly resigned. The presumption, rather, is that he has not resigned. Presumption here refers to the inclination of our judgement prior to see the facts and evidence.

Now Canon 332 §2 says that a pope resigns when he resigns his munus.

But Pope Benedict in his act of Feb. 11, 2013, renounces the ministerium he received.

Therefore, at this point, before any further study, every Cardinal had the duty to presume that the renunciation was invalid. He had do presume, because, presumption requires that he hold that there has been no cessation of power, when a pope renounces ministerium instead of the required munus.

Canon 17 then requires the Cardinals to examine the Code of Canon Law (as I did here) to understand the proper sense of terms, or the canonical tradition (as I did here), or the mind of the Legislator (as was done by Father Covens here).  But all of these conclude the renunciation of ministry does not effect a renunciation of the papacy.

So who is the extremist now? The Catholic who holds, as he should, to what the law presumes? Or the Cardinal who did not do his duty nor his homework but rails at Catholics who have done what he neglected to do? Presuming against the very presumption of the law.

It almost seems as if the Cardinals were already inclined to rid themselves of Pope Benedict, and so, whether he was in error or not, whether he wanted to  bifurcate the papacy or not, whether the renunciation was valid or not, they did not bother one iota to due their due diligence before convening in Conclave. — If there ever was a reason to doubt the validity of the Conclave of 2013, this is the first and prime of them all!

Third, Action Item:

Ask your favorite priest, Bishop or Cardinal, when did they apply canons 40 and 41 to the Papal renunciation? Because in those 2 canons, all who hold an office in the Church — even the simple priest who is no longer mentioning Benedict in the Canon of the Mass, where the name of the Roman Pontiff is named — all, I say, had the duty to examine the Latin text of the Renunciation and determine whether it fulfilled the requirements of the Latin text of Canon 332 §2. So ask them, “On what day and hour, in what place and with what books and references did you do your duty specified in canons 40 and 41?” — You have every right to ask this question, before listening to anything they say about the renunciation, because obviously, if they never did their duty, they have no moral right to tell you anything about what the Act of Renunciation means, let alone, to regard anyone else as the Pope, other than Benedict.

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A manifesto detailing the strategies transgender lobbying organizations have used to rapidly gain political power and unheard of cultural influence also provides insight into how the western world suddenly finds itself kowtowing to the extreme demands of trans ideology.

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LGBT activists reveal how movement gained power, changed laws

  DentonsGenderHomosexualityInternational Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer And Intersex Student & Youth OrganisationJames KirkupLgbtMadeleine KearnsMediaNational ReviewNgosThomson Reters Foundation

December 4, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — A manifesto detailing the strategies transgender lobbying organizations have used to rapidly gain political power and unheard of cultural influence also provides insight into how the western world suddenly finds itself kowtowing to the extreme demands of trans ideology. 

The title alone is alarming: “Only Adults? Good Practices in Legal Gender Recognition for Youth.” Although the slick 64-page document deals with specific practices and tactics that have proved successful for expanding transgender policies and power in a general way, it primarily focuses on how to hand power to children to declare whatever gender they choose while squashing parental authority and concern.

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Only Adults? Good Practices in Legal Gender Recognition for Youth 

Over the years, progressives who seek to fundamentally change society have diligently developed strategies that win. They don’t promote ideas that win on their own merit; in fact, they have had amazing success promoting ideas that most people would normally reject. As this newly published document demonstrates, LGBT activists rely on stealth, behind-the-scenes efforts that do an end run around public discourse and legislative processes, resulting in new laws, new regulations, and the untenable demands of the “woke” culture that are increasingly overtaking government at every level. 

The document is a result of the collaborative work of three organizations: Dentons, perhaps the world’s largest law firm; the Thomson Reuters Foundation; and the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer and Intersex Youth & Student Organisation (IGLYO).  

How has transgenderism taken hold so quickly?

“A great deal of the transgender debate is unexplained,” observed James Kirkup, in an article penned for The Spectator UK about the document. “One of the most mystifying aspects is the speed and success of a small number of small organisations in achieving major influence over public bodies, politicians and officials.”

“How did we get here?” asked Kirkup. “How has a certain idea taken hold in so many places so swiftly?”

Eleven “techniques” promoted in the manifesto explain how. Here are a few:

‘Get ahead of the government agenda’

In many of the NGO (Non-governmental organization) advocacy campaigns that we studied, there were clear benefits where NGOs managed to get ahead of the government and publish progressive legislative proposal before the government had time to develop their own. 

NGOs need to intervene early in the legislative process and ideally before it has even started. This will give them far greater ability to shape the government agenda and the ultimate proposal than if they intervene after the government has already started to develop its own proposal. Where NGOs fail to intervene early, the ultimate gender recognition legislation may be far less progressive than activists would like.

‘Get ahead of the media story’

There is a real risk that where advocates fail to intervene early, sensitizing the media and the public to trans rights in general and legal gender recognition in particular, persistent negative and pernicious narratives about the trans rights agenda may take hold in the public imagination which will negatively influence the legislative process and the prospects for success.

‘Tie your campaign to more popular reform’

In Ireland, Denmark and Norway, changes to the law on legal gender recognition were put through at the same time as other more popular reforms such as marriage equality legislation. This provided a veil of protection, particularly in Ireland, where marriage equality was strongly supported, but gender identity remained a more difficult issue to win public support for.

‘Avoid excessive press coverage and exposure’

Another technique which has been used to great effect is the limitation of press coverage and exposure. In certain countries, like the UK, information on legal gender recognition reforms has been misinterpreted in the mainstream media, and opposition has arisen as a result. 

Many believe that public campaigning has been detrimental to progress, as much of the general public is not well informed about trans issues, and therefore misinterpretation can arise.

‘De-medicalization’  

Activists are advised to decouple “legal gender recognition” and “medical treatment or diagnosis” because the public often finds affirmative trans hormone regimens and irreversible genital surgeries troubling, especially when it comes to children. In this way: 

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Minors may be more likely to be able to access the processes, as one of the reasons often cited by opponents and critics in such countries for denying such access to minors is that young people should not have irreversible surgeries until they are of the age of maturity. Activists have sought to educate the public that legal gender recognition is a purely civil process.

Trans activism relies on the cowardice of the majority

“Is it surprising that activists rely on the ignorance of the media and general public to push their agenda?” asked National Review’s Madeleine Kearns. “Not really, when you consider how obviously dangerous and wrong that agenda is. But there’s more to it. As is most often the case, the success of a tyrannical minority depends on the cowardice of the majority. Not on their action, but on our inaction.”

“How many more people must be needlessly hurt before we decide to dismantle activist tricks and ‘techniques’? Before we decide to tell them ‘No way,’ ‘There’s no evidence,’ ‘This isn’t safe,’ ‘This isn’t science,’ and, frankly, ‘This isn’t even plausible,’” wrote  Kearns. “How will this issue magically resolve itself — our statutes, science books, and dictionaries having all been rewritten?”

“As is often the case, the corruption of our social institutions does not occur solely on account of a tyrannical minority,” she continued. “Rather, this minority is aided and abetted by a silent majority who cling to comfort and distraction as others suffer in plain sight. But our excuses are wearing thin. This isn’t a fringe issue. This isn’t going away by itself. And people in positions of influence, having fallen asleep, risk waking up from this nightmare in a world they don’t recognize.”

The trans lobby hides its efforts ‘behind a veil,’ and with good reason

“A major international law firm has helped write a lobbying manual for people who want to change the law to prevent parents having the final say about significant changes in the status of their own children,” noted Kirkup, summarizing his thoughts about the manifesto. “That manual advises those lobbying for that change to hide their plans behind a ‘veil’ and to make sure that neither the media nor the wider public know much about the changes affecting children that they are seeking to make. Because if the public find out about those changes, they might well object to them.”

Kirkup continued: 

Normally, anyone who wants to change the law accepts that to do so they need to win the support or, at least, the consent of the people whose authority ultimately gives the law its force. The approach outlined, in detail, in the Dentons report amounts to a very different way of lobbying to get the laws and policies you want. Even more notably, it suggests that in several countries people have been quite successful in lobbying behind a ‘veil’ and in a way that deliberately avoids the attention of the public. 

Kirkup believes the stealth strategies outlined in the manifesto are the wrong way to go about changing society and are ultimately doomed to failure. 

“No policy made in the shadows can survive in sunlight,” he concluded.

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HERE IS A MICROSCOPIC ANALYSIS OF HOW THE TRIAL OF PRESIDENT Donald Trump WILL PROBABLY WORK OUT IN THE SENATE OF THE United States CONGRESS

The Senate and Impeachment Dynamic…

Posted on December 5, 2019 by sundance

As the House impeachment of President Donald Trump becomes more of a forgone political conclusion it’s worth considering what terms and conditions Senate Leader Mitch McConnell will extract in order to preserve a Trump Presidency.

Most political pundits will not correctly outline the status of the possibilities, because most political pundits are willfully blind to the structure of the McConnell Senate.

First, McConnell doesn’t care about holding a majority position in the Senate.  Whether he is a majority leader or a minority leader doesn’t matter to McConnell. In fact McConnell’s political skill-set does better in the minority than the majority.

The preferred political position for Mitch McConnell is where he has between 45 and 49 republican Senators, and the Democrats hold the Majority with around 55.  Of course with Reid’s retirement, this would now be with Majority leader Chuck Schumer holding office.

Why does McConnell prefer the minority position?

The answer is where you have had to actually follow Mitch McConnell closely to see how he works.   When the Majority has around 52 to 55 seats, they need McConnell to give them 8 to 9 votes to overcome the three-fifths (60 vote) threshold for their legislative needs.  It is in the process of trade and payment for those 8 to 9 votes where McConnell makes more money, and holds more power, than as a sitting Majority Leader.

The 60 vote threshold, and McConnell’s incredible skillset in the minority, is where he shines.  Each of the needed votes to achieve sixty is worth buckets of indulgence to the minority leader.  This is why McConnell never changed the Senate rules for legislative passage.

Except for budget passage (reconciliation); and McConnell being forced by intransigence in the era of Trump resistance to change the judicial vote threshold to 51; McConnell would never consider changing the legislative threshold to a simple majority because it would be removing his favored position.  A simple majority vote is adverse to his interests; that’s why he retained it during his reign as majority leader; as did Harry Reid before him.

The vote selling to the 60 vote threshold in the Senate is where the UniParty operates; and where the status of maximum financial benefit for the minority exists.

Currently, as majority leader, McConnell needs to purchase eight or nine votes for each legislative priority.

Mitch McConnell doesn’t like being the purchaser, he prefers being the vote seller where his skill-set as a broker really shines.  McConnell is much better at extracting terms for his vote sales, than being the purchaser for the votes of an intransigent minority wing. This is why the current Senate doesn’t pass many bills.

If Democrats were in the majority, and McConnell was the minority leader, we would see much more legislation pass because Schumer is a more well financed buyer (K-Street) and McConnell is a much better seller.  Whenever we have this minority dynamic it always leaves people confused because few really watch what McConnell is doing.

McConnell takes his favorite twenty controlled GOP senators and brokers their votes on an ‘as needed’ basis.  The eight to ten senators he selects each time get compensated in the process.  McConnell rotates the financial beneficiaries on a bill-by-bill basis.  As a consequence each of the 20 or so McConnell senators gets quite wealthy over time, and McConnell gains additional power and influence.

If any of the republican Senators attempt to disrupt this UniParty business model McConnell excommunicates them from the legislative process; the best reference for the ‘incommunicado’ approach is former U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC).

Additional references for how McConnell operates this scheme as the Minority Leader can be found in the Corker-Cardin amendment which allowed the Iran nuclear deal/payments under Obama; and/or the “fast track” Trade Promotion Authority deal for TPP passage, again for President Obama’s maximum benefit.   In these examples McConnell worked with Harry Reid to flip the vote threshold from votes to approve, to votes needed to deny.

Within TPP Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was again working on the priorities of U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue.   McConnell and Donohue have been working together on UniParty trade and domestic legislative issues for around twenty years. It is well established that Senate Leader Mitch McConnell has one major career alliance that has been unbroken and unchanged for well over two decades. That alliance is with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and specifically with CoC President Tom Donohue.

CoC President Tom Donohue represents Wall Street interests and supports: all multinational trade deals, open-border immigration policies, amnesty legislative constructs, and all of the issues that have generally irked common-sense GOP voters for the same period of time. [SEE HERE and SEE HERE].

Tom Donohue is the biggest lobbyist spender in DC every year, by a mile.

To remind ourselves how Minority and Majority Senator McConnell took down the threat of the Tea Party revisit these old articles CNN Part I and CNN Part II  both showcase how McConnell works.   Then do some research on how McConnell worked with Haley Barbour in Mississippi [SEE HERE].

So the reason for outlining this Senate dynamic is simply to remind everyone that with a Senate impeachment trial coming up, it’s not the 2020 campaign to hold a majority in the senate that matters to Mitch McConnell.  If McConnell can rid himself of Tom Donohue’s nemesis, President Trump, and simultaneously return to his preferred and more lucrative position as minority leader, he would be quite happy.

The first opportunity for leverage over the White House will come in the shape of the Senate “rules of impeachment”.  The senate will have wide latitude in how they set-up the processes and procedures for the trial – and McConnell never misses an opportunity to leverage a “get” from his senate position.

So what will the White House need to give McConnell… or what will McConnell’s ask be, in order to protect the office of the president?  Here’s where you have to remember Tom Donohue and the Wall St priorities.

McConnell (subtext Donohue) would prefer the confrontation with China be eliminated and the tariffs dropped.  Is that too big an “ask”?  Would the White House sell/trade McConnell a China deal for better impeachment terms?

All of these are questions worth pondering now, because there’s no doubt they are being discussed amid those in DC sitting on the comfy Corinthian wing-backs and gleefully rubbing their hands around a well polished mahogany table….

….There are trillions at stake !

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  1. David Farrar says:December 6, 2019 at 9:25 amWell, at least now we know why Gov. Kemp appointed Loeffler rather than Collins for Isakson’s Senate seat — can’t lose a Donohue supporter at a time like this.Liked by 2 peopleReply
  2. Madi says:December 6, 2019 at 9:37 amCondemnation without investigation it the highest level of ignorance …Show me a crime and I will show you a man. « Ignoramus »; thank you Sundance for giving us an excellent analysis of current events. WhyLiked by 1 personReply
    • Madi says:December 6, 2019 at 9:49 amSorry the screen when’s blank. Who control the Government? Taxpayers $$$? CIA,FBI?
      Where are the WMD in IRaq? Who was the « guy » who killed 58 Americans in Las Vegas? Epstein tapes? who wants us Right/Left to fight?
      Sorry to be so cynical. I do not want a Revolution . May the real Christians take back control not all those Zionists !!! Fake
      Prophets, Fake Religions.Liked by 1 personReply
      • ann says:December 6, 2019 at 3:37 pmMadi,
        Absolutely true, Americans do not WANT a revolution.
        We do want a government that responds, rather than A RESISTANCE, that repudiates our identity, needs & wantsAs an adult, I cannot recall either party economic policy that did not betray the needs & wants of small to med cap private business.
        Mezzo/micro non public market economies expand the proportion of middle class citizens.
        America’s culture is grounded in generations of independent , resilient thinkers, self starters whose ventures are calculated risks.
        Pioneers, farmers, inventors, scientists, builders, small business, a society that must practice pragmatism and govern itself realistically to flourish. A far different culture from the DNC’s core constituency, of insulated or unionised public sector employees. . For natal citizens, our socioeconomic Bell curve was rather flattened, Until recently. Recall that media fool who quoted the doggerel on the Statue of Liberty to Stephen Miller?
        The Uniparty uses historical mythos, and crude stats that gloss over the steep vertical bifurcation of post CW era. The boom & bust, monopolies, and grim reality of millions of impoverished, immigrants; wage labor packed in urban slum tenements, rife w endemic diseases .
        Proto proletarians & barons who built industry & infastructure for cheap w laissez-faire cut throat consolidation. That’s globalism, writ large. Which both parties endorsed .
        Voters never had a chance, other than Perot.LikeReply
  3. MLK says:December 6, 2019 at 9:58 amTo state the obvious, once he took the oath the objective was to force Trump to resign. I won’t belabor all that was done between then and the 2018 midterms to lay the best predicate for that objective by domestic and foreign players, including UniParty Republicans, Suffice it to say that Republicans holding the Senate and the base unifying (not too strong a word) behind Trump, along with MAGA! peace and prosperity, made him invulnerable to impeachment/removal (and thus resignation) until after the 2020 election.I mention this in the instant context because a feature of being part of the Commanding Heights is to live to fight (and win) another day.While being rid of POTUS Trump is different in that it was and will remain an enduring objective until he is no longer POTUS, the astounding array of interests making up The Resistance to differing degrees must act under the totality of the circumstances at any given moment. I had said as recently as a few weeks ago that I assessed it more likely than not that he would not be impeached. Rather obviously, the probabilities have flipped, even if nothing is certain until it happens. I’ve been highlighting for some time that Trump is on track to win reelection in a landslide. Trump’s increasing support among black and Hispanic voters raises the prospect that of Democrats being wiped out in 2020. “What have you got to lose,” was successful in 2016, when MAGA! was merely a promise. I simply cannot see how Pelosi can break the cycle of pain in this regard with these core Democrat voters.Which, I think, explains why she is consolidating the rest of her party’s base through impeachment. Trump has brilliantly stuck to his guns, having told Pelosi what time it is after the 2018 midterms: chose either legislation or presidential harassment, you can’t have both.As for a Senate trial, we should keep in mind what constrains McConnell. He is up for reelection in 2020, and the POTUS can finish him off with the base as easily as he did with Corky and Flake. Moreover, he’s in a position to do so after McConnell has to deliver on a Senate trial. And, actually, the risk of Republican base payback exists regardless of what Trump says or signals. That was brought home to me when watching one of Trump’s rallies in TN before the 2018 midterms. Corky was there and when the POTUS introduced him the whole place booed. We shouldn’t overthink this. What McConnell has to deliver is a unified Republican caucus voting against conviction. That means he has to deliver Murkowski, Collins and even human scum like Romney. If he does, then all the decisions he made re rules etc. will be vouchsafed. If he doesn’t then every jot and tittle will come back to bite him in the ass.Liked by 3 peopleReply
    • Mrs. E says:December 6, 2019 at 12:52 pmWell, McConnell is 77 this year – an old man, having trouble getting his face to bend for his smiles. He is not aging well. Time is catching up to him, fast, and everyone can see it. Time for Kentucky to move him on.Liked by 2 peopleReply
      • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 2:58 pmHis age is probably a factor in all this. A younger man might be more concerned about his “future” whereas an older man about his “legacy”. Does The Turtle want to go out remembered as a success or as a rat-(er, turtle-faced) blankety-blank? And it is fitting to ask, how much richer can he get by selling out the President, either politically or financially? He represents powerful international shadowy figures as well as major players, yes, indeed; but with the microscope on him, doesn’t that also reduce his options? Questions, questions.Liked by 1 personReply
  4. 335blues says:December 6, 2019 at 10:10 amIf the senate sells out America to communist china there will be hell to pay.Liked by 1 personReply
    • Zombie says:December 6, 2019 at 10:13 amHow?LikeReply
      • Rgt says:December 6, 2019 at 10:43 am“Let’s see what happens”Liked by 2 peopleReply
      • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 3:23 pmHow? By not even pretending they govern with our “consent.” Government is like our current currency: both only survive because of either the people’s faith in the government, that it does represent our interest — or it survives because of apathy (as in the USSR, or the PRC). Today, we have faith in the money we collect, earn, and trade, when in reality it is backed by nothing, except faith in government; we have faith in government, obviously — badly damaged, of course — because we give it our “consent” — but when they betray that just a little too much — as would the Senate turning on the President — then the “suspense of disbelief” goes out the window, and of course the money is suddenly worthless as the government that prints it. We get back at them by not even pretending to believe them, and revolution erupts.
        N.B. There’s a time-honored idea contrary to “consent of the governed”, and that is that God institutes a government. (See Romans 13:1) But we in the West haven’t had that for some centuries, now, not since the French Revolution brutally introduced into Europe the American John Lockean “consent of the governed”. (A pity: Lincoln could has used it with great effect against the Rebs.) And there’s yet another: An elite governs by right of evolutionary forces only the elite perceives and can control; call it “Government by Shamans. That’s Communism and its many versions of “Socialism”. Hopeless, klunky, bossy and brutal, it always relies solely on absolute brutality to “rule”. Obviously, one can see the Democrat Party radicals clearly they are worthy government shamans; they’re utopian tyrants who want us to shut up and accept their superior rule. They must be opposed at all hazards.RCLikeReply
  5. Charles Dodgson says:December 6, 2019 at 10:19 amI suspect the real number is higher than 20 for a couple reasons. Jones in Alabama, Peters in Michigan, and Manchin in WV may be tough to convince to vote for removal if the vote ends up right at 67.Also, even if you assume every Dem votes for removal, I feel like it would be hard to convince a number of Repubs to vote to remove if their vote could be positioned as The 67th Vote. They would want 68-70 so it’s harder to single them out.Finally, there are a lot of squishes, but McConnell would have to make the benefits outweigh the risks. As an example, in my state of Texas, Cruz won’t vote to impeach, but Cornyn is as swampy as they get. However, Cornyn is up for reelection this year, and there is no way he would win relection, or even the primary if he voted to remove Trump.It would be useful to have a list of untrustworthy Repubs and then look at whether they could survive a vote to remove.I just don’t think there are 20+ Republicans that are not is such deep red states that they wouldn’t be effectively ending their careers. 10 yes, but for 20+ you’d have to show me the names and why they are either safe for reelection, or why its worth the significant risk losing.Liked by 2 peopleReply
    • Rgt says:December 6, 2019 at 10:48 amHere in MI Peters has been the invisible senator and now faces John James in 2020. A vote to remove Trump will shine brightly on Peters and may tip the balance in what currently is a toss up.Liked by 1 personReply
    • cdor1 says:December 6, 2019 at 10:56 amIf the Republicans were to convict Trump in the Senate, the Republican Party is finished. They will never recover. Mitch McConnell will eventually, if not immediately, lose his Senate seat. In the meantime, there will not be enough Republicans left for McConnell to even have any bargaining power to sell votes. I hope he is smart enough to overcome his lying ways and, instead, develop proper rules that will enable solid Republican Senators to turn the tables on the Democrats by making them testify as to all their dirty dealings over the past four years.Liked by 1 personReply
      • not2worryluv says:December 6, 2019 at 12:42 pmWithout President Trump there is no GOP.
        If any of the Republicans vote to impeach Trump the consequences would be grim for the RNC. Why kill the Golden Goose?
        Then again, President Trump could run as a Third Party Candidate and screw the GOP!
        And he could handily win re-election, in my humble opinion.Liked by 1 personReply
      • Mr e-man says:December 6, 2019 at 1:51 pmExcellent point. McConnell must be angling for one more term. 6 years is a good gig. He can make much more money in that 6 years but he has to get there. Dissing Trump may be his death knell. So he either has to go for the big score now and screw Trump, or acquit Trump and get the extra 6 years to make the big scores.Who is willing to pay him the big score now? Lots of people are lining up to pay him. And if Sundance knows how he works, so do all the big money people that will pay him to screw Trump. He can do a lot of damage all by himself with the rules.Now that I think about it, he can get the big payout now by putting in bad rules, then look for more for delivering 20 R’s. Or he can get the money for bad rules, and then not deliver any votes, insuring himself reelection for 6 more years of graft. That sounds like the best way for him.LikeReply
      • YY4U says:December 6, 2019 at 2:23 pmI was reading the posts before posting and came across cdor1 saying exactly what I would have said. A large percentage of the 95% approval of Trump Republican base will turn on the Republicans like a duck on a June bug IF the Republicans cave to the Democrats on this. It’s possible. The Gov. of GA just showed the Establishment Republicans are as two faced as Justin of Canada — Remember Romney begging for Trump’s endorsement when he came in SECOND in his primary race. Trump gave it and Romney stabbed him in the back. Same with the GA governor who will be one term I predict and done for politically.What the Republicans don’t realize is this impeachment bovine excrement would have happened to ANY Republican who beat Hillary. It wouldn’t have mattered had he been a neutered RINO (Rubio, Bush III, Kasich) or a real maverick like Cruz — he would have had a special counsel sicced on him (Nixon, Reagan, Bush II, Trump) and he’d have either let the Democrats govern or he’d have been impeached (Trump). The fact is Democrats have won since Reagan whether they lost or not. We voters have had our say but it hasn’t mattered (2010, 2014, 2016). The Swamp is in charge and now they’re powerful enough to give us the middle finger.I think the GOP is done for. Their masks have slipped and whether we jettison them in 2022 (if Trump loses) or 2024 (when he is term limited out of office), they are on borrowed time. Romney and Kemp have proved they don’t learn from experience.Liked by 1 personReply
    • Sonya says:December 6, 2019 at 12:27 pmAll these assumptions are based on the expectation that filibuster will stay in place. As soon as Democrat (any Democrat) becomes a majority leader in the Senate with Democrat President and House, filibuster is gone. In two years of Democrats in charge we will not recognize this country. They became much more aggressive since they passed Obamacare.Liked by 2 peopleReply
    • botchedcasuality says:December 6, 2019 at 12:31 pmWatch the Senators who are not up for re-election.
      They rely upon short memories of the voters and two years of spin to
      bury their actions to get re-elected.Liked by 2 peopleReply
    • Mr e-man says:December 6, 2019 at 1:40 pmNanzi said impeachment wasn’t political yet all these “jurors” have made up their mind before a “trial” or any proper evidence is submitted. They are basing their verdict on their own reelection. I could say the same thing about our Supreme Court. The verdict is already known based on the political leanings of the Justices. They only hear arguments to make it look good. What a farce our government is.LikeReply
    • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 3:27 pmI think the Lesbian senator from Arizona, Kyrsten Sinema, wouldn’t vote to convict. Don’t known that for sure, but she seems like a true maverick. It would be interesting to see what she does in this case.LikeReply
  6. David DeAtkine says:December 6, 2019 at 10:25 amI don’t blame anyone for being a pessimist, but I think Trump is not reacting, he’s moving the pieces on this chessboard. He knows McConnell as well, or better than we do, and he certainly has information on McConnell that may be more important than anything the CoC has. The patriots are in charge — and the Democrats, as is patently obvious to anyone except completely mindless liberals, are flailing, and in utter panic. Nancy was obviously drunk or high in her press conference yesterday PM. In any event, most of us can only PRAY, so pray we do! Pray like never before; pray for POTUS and his family; pray for protection from and exposure of evil.St. Michael the Archangel, defend us. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, cast in to Hell Satan and all the evil spirits that roam about the earth seeking the ruin of souls. AmenLiked by 7 peopleReply
    • The Boss says:December 6, 2019 at 10:56 amAmen to both paragraphs.
      No wonder President Trump says bring it on.Liked by 4 peopleReply
    • abigailstraight says:December 6, 2019 at 11:22 amAgreed David!
      Mitch must realize that PDJTrump is a VERY different POTUS than those before him, Donohue COC must also realize this.
      It would seem to me that their strategy would have to be altered when working with President Trump, because THEY KNOW that HE KNOWS what happened in the past and what it going on today.
      Mitch still wants his power and Donohue COC wants power also BUT the rules have changed and POTUS determines who gets paid this time; that’s why the Dems are impeaching him; he’s not dancing to their tune, like other past presidents.
      So, I expect Mitch will step up and do what’s expected because he could lose all of his power if this goes down the wrong path.
      Remember, POTUS is unpredictable and is out to Win, Win, Win.Liked by 3 peopleReply
    • James says:December 6, 2019 at 11:22 amI’ve heard about this 4D chess for a long time but what I see is Manifort put in prison, Gen Flynn destroyed, and Roger Stone captured by an army. And what is coming from our side? Crickets. And meanwhile Hillary Clinton continues to cackle, taunt, threaten and defame our side. What is Bill Barr doing? You mean he can’t charge Hillary with something. If he did something like that it would send out a shock wave that would let them know we’re on attack. We need to fight back. I’m sure Pres. Trump knows the dems would like to destroy him and his family. They would like to arrest his entire family. Their hatred is so great they would put Barron in prison if they could.Mitch McConnell, they will come after you and your family. This is not business as usual. I love Pres. Trump and I hope the Senate will do what needs to be done, but I like most of people here don’t trust them. I hope no one is counting on the IG report, Tik Tok, Tik Tok,
      Maybe Durham will do something. Who knows.Liked by 2 peopleReply
      • Just Beachy says:December 6, 2019 at 11:48 amWell, this could be why Hillary is running, then isn’t running, then who knows running. Ready to jump in the race if/when she thinks they are coming for her. It would be impeachable to go after a political opponent after all.LikeReply
      • saintoil says:December 6, 2019 at 11:49 amSpit the hook out. It’s all part of the plan. It had to get this bad to be obvious to many people in this country just how deep the swamp is and just how demented the left has become. Most people perusing here knew the score but lots of politically uninvolved and middle of the road types just live cluelessly and most of the time are happy that way. DJT changed all that. This IS the event and the turning point for our culture.Liked by 2 peopleReply
      • Bob says:December 6, 2019 at 12:52 pmI’m very frustrated that Barr hasn’t changed someone, even for something indirectly related, like the House IT scandal. Put them back on their heels, for sure.But I also trust Trump. He’s clearly in command, and knows much more than I do. In my wildest dreams, I see Trump goading the House to impeach, and then putting on the “greatest show on Earth” during the Senate trial, calling every witness that needs to be called, asking every question that needs to be asked, declassifying every document that needs to be released, and then, in dramatic fashion, testifying directly for all to see. If he declassifies now, they’ll charge him with obstruction, but who can object to him declassifying during his own trial? It would be the highest rated TV program ever, and would go on for weeks/months in the January-February-March time-frame, overshadowing the democrat presidential campaigns and primary elections. And he’d raise an incredible amount of money, much of which can be used to primary congressional republicans who cross him.Liked by 1 personReply
      • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 3:33 pmIndeed, we can’t trust ’em, but look at our President, the classic Alpha Male. He D.O.M.I.N.A.T.E.D. at that NATO meeting; the Brit press reported it in amaze. Most politicians are untrustworthy, too, but they are all survivors. Between an Alpha like the President, and their own fear for their political (and otherwise) survival, I think we can expect them to vote to acquit.Liked by 1 personReply
    • Daniel says:December 6, 2019 at 12:04 pmAs critical as I am of Sundance on occasion, I’ve got to say I don’t know if Trump knows McConnell better than Sundance. I think his analysis and clear explanation of that analysis spells out precisely what Trump is up against with McConnell. And McConnell can’t not do precisely that. The forces which motivate [control] his actions are irresistible. There’s no way McConnell won’t do as he is told.Trump has great instincts but the fails of listening to swamp creatures when hiring and making appointments does not create a terrific record. Great instincts are only going to get you so far. Not having enough people he can trust has been the worst stumbling block. Trump hasn’t been dealing with “incompetence.” He has been dealing with betrayal by every synonym possible including sedition and treason.And while my dreams are filled with police and soldiers rounding up criminals for trial, it’s actually very, very hard to imagine it as a practical reality.LikeReply
      • botchedcasuality says:December 6, 2019 at 12:44 pmSad to say I agree.LikeReply
      • Bob says:December 6, 2019 at 12:54 pmMcconnell and Graham are both up for re-election in 2020. They’ll have to answer to the voters for how they handle this. I like Trump’s chances.LikeReply
      • Pew-Anon says:December 6, 2019 at 2:37 pmSpecifically regarding the issue of supposedly bad cabinet appointments, this single area, more than any other, is in my opinion a clear window into the priorities and thinking of PDJT. We all complain, and rightly so, about seemingly unforced errors like Sessions, Barr, McMasters, Bolton, Tillerson, Kelly, etc. But the cabinet picks no one complains about — and the ones that have been the most stable — are all in the economic arena, especially Ross, Mnuchin, and Lighthizer. PDJT’s economic team is all aces. World class, even. The rest of his cabinet, not so much. In fact they are little more than ballast in his administration, names drawn from a hat to fill space because someone has to fill those spots. In my opinion, Trump’s priority, by far, is fixing the toxic trade position of America, especially with China. All the rest, including Spygate, Russiagate, Ukrainegate, and impeachment, is not really even on his radar, and it shows in his cabinet. In other words, despite the protest he obliged to mount against the raw sedition of the Demokkkratic left, he barely even cares. China is the goal, and the fount from which all other swamp corruption spews. We can debate whether he is right for taking such a stance, but that’s the way it looks to me more and more as I watch these events unfold.Liked by 1 personReply
      • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 3:37 pm“There’s no way McConnell won’t do as he is told.” Remember the Far Side cartoon, picturing a devil with his pitchfork in a guy’s back, and the guy was looking at two doors, one of which was labeled “Damned if you do” and the other “Damned if you don’t”? That’s Turtle’s reality. But if he goes with his “masters” then he blows up the country. So, where’s he gonna live then? Samoa?Liked by 1 personReply
    • Joel Duprey says:December 6, 2019 at 1:13 pmWhy are you praying to St Michael? We are told over and over again in scripture that there is only one God and all prayer and praise are reserved for him alone.LikeReply
      • babethebeagle says:December 6, 2019 at 3:00 pmWe all have our own religious beliefs, but when Catholics pray “to” a saint, it is meant to be through that saint. There are numerous passages in the Bible where God uses angels as messengers to men.
        For me the important part is that we all continue to pray, pray, pray.
        The message in Luke 18, The Parable of the Persistent Widow, shows us that persistence in prayer pays off. Let us each persist in our prayers using the best way each of us knows.Liked by 1 personReply
      • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 3:47 pmYou’re thinking of 1 Tim 2:5. Yet if there is no mediator between God and man but Our Lord, then we can’t pray for one another, interceding for one another to God, because we’d be muscling in on Our Lord’s sovereignty. However, historically, that passage was not understood that way, and it wasn’t until the Protestant Reformation that some people re-interpreted it. Catholics, the 14 self-governing Orthodox Churches, and the “Oriental Orthodox” (Armenians, Copts, etc.) all pray to saints just as you’d ask a friend to pray for you in some particular circumstance. Angels help out daily, hourly too (countering the demons and their ceaseless endeavors). President Trump needs ALL of our prayers, every single day and night, and I for one invoke the whole host of Heaven for him.Liked by 1 personReply
  7. dawg says:December 6, 2019 at 11:08 amWow.I think sundance has earned a new title. He deserves to be called “Dr. Sundance” for all the RED PILLS he is prescribing to us all!Liked by 1 personReply
  8. evergreen says:December 6, 2019 at 11:12 amIf I were Trump and McConnell hinted or asked for protection money, I’d want to tell him where to go.Instead, I’d bargain his terms, seal a deal, slide through the trial, and then burn his ass with all regularity.“But, we had a deal! You went back on your word!”“That wasn’t a deal I made with you. It was POTUS lure. Sucker.”LikeReply
  9. railer says:December 6, 2019 at 11:48 amI doubt McConnell has much leverage, not against a rock like Trump, who will stare him down fearlessly. Trump has the nuclear option, of making a real trial out of this, with witnesses and documents and lots of stuff McConnell would rather stay buried. Trump can also move to have Roberts recuse, as he’s in charge of that FISA court, the root lawbreaking in the Deep State conspiracy against Trump. Absent that FISA abuse, none of this Muh Russia conspiracy ever originates, and we’re spared this past 3 years of insanity. Roberts might not recuse, but Trump can go scorched earth with the petition for such, and make it all public, no matter the outcome. Nobody wants that, not McConnell, not Deep State, not The Swamp, not Roberts… not nobody. And as we know, Trump is capable of doing and saying anything, if it’s necessary. He would spare nobody if he saw a path through. And quite simply, it’d be the right thing to do. Roberts has no business presiding on a body that is judging Trump, when his FISA court has acted questionably in other matters re Trump. I’m predicting McConnell gets nothing in any deal, and chooses to ram through a quick review and vote in Trump’s favor. It shouldn’t be too hard. There’s no there there. In fact, I almost think Trump might be able to squeeze concessions from McConnell out of this. Trump can really make his life miserable, if he wants to. I do believe Pelosi has the votes for this, but she’s going to have to give concessions to get them. I would guess USMCA is one of those, which is good news.Liked by 2 peopleReply
  10. Daniel says:December 6, 2019 at 11:50 amHere’s a thought. LIE to McConnell. Does he behave any better?“Yes, we’ll drop China” Then once the impeachment thing is thwarted, pick it up again. People keep asking “why is this taking so long?!? Why not declassify?!” Well this is probably due to the reality of one side playing by the rules and with honor while the other side continues its guerilla warfare tactics. We’ve seen how well it works when the rules of engagement are only followed by one side. It leads to a lot of losing and ultimately to some form of disgraceful exit.I’m not discounting the possibility that there is “a plan” or “the plan” but contrary to Q people, I still don’t SEE evidence of a plan. (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but this is a complicated way of staying on the fence here.)Trump did prevail in the Mueller situation. He waited things out and it turned out “OK” only if you forget all of the pain, suffering and slow progress being made when things could be a LOT better and faster as the president himself is fond of pointing out. So did things turn out “OK”? Depends on how you scope and define “OK.”Frankly, I believe Trump will prevail in this impeachment thing — things aren’t quite as foregone as they appear to be to some people. There’s indication a number of Democrat house members will vote against. Will it be enough when the time comes? I dunno. But I also think there may be some surprises in the house where some seats are being taken for granted so the outcome of the vote, whatever it may be, will have consequences.Prevailing will mean remains in office and the Democrats suffer for their garbage. But as Sundance points out, these people are not “playing to win.” Some are even “playing to lose” as is explained in very clear and understandable terms above. (Seriously, I don’t think it could have been explained more clearly — the math is simple and the fact that when you’re in the minority, you’re on the “sales” side rather than the buyer’s side when it comes to politics.) So this reality (not playing to win) sort of screws with the odds here.So I think Trump needs to deal with these clowns by using THEIR rules. Of course, I’m sure they’ve got some sort of guarantee Trump wouldn’t go back on any agreements even though they do quite often. But Trump is smarter than that — a lifetime of dealing with government in New York and worldwide, he knows how to get what he wants…. usually. I don’t trust a plan I can’t know about. I do trust Trump. He’s our Obi-wan — our only hope.Liked by 1 personReply
  11. mike diamond says:December 6, 2019 at 12:51 pmWhat would Mitch do!???nothing! He never stands for our PresidentLiked by 1 personReply
    • Daniel says:December 6, 2019 at 2:24 pmWhat would he do? He would pull a Ben Shapiro. When the ridiculous claims against Roy Moore were in the news, Ben was right there saying “credible allegations” without EVER substantiating what exactly was credible about circumstantially false allegations. When a leading political intellectual shifts from facts and evidence, explaining all of the details which form the basis for an analysis to empty and inexplicable claims, it’s noticeable. It’s rather like the rare occasion when people here depart from the detailed intellectual review of something and then cite unnamed sources.I’m with President Trump on the topic of unnamed sources:Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrumpDo not believe any article or story you read or see that uses “anonymous sources” having to do with trade or any other subject. Only accept information if it has an actual living name on it. The Fake News Media makes up many “sources say” stories. Do not believe them!116K6:43 AM – Dec 6, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy56.4K people are talking about thisAnd I don’t care how well regarded the source is. It could be Hannity or here. If you can’t spell it out and substantiate it, I’m going to take what you have to say and give it the weight of the supporting information offered.Liked by 1 personReply
  12. Sparty says:December 6, 2019 at 12:57 pmI think he is actually terrified of Trump. They all are. And POTUS knows this dirtbag McConnrl and how to twist him then leverage. Up for re-election in 2020, Trump calling him out via Twitter and pressers, exposing wife’s daddy 7M “gift”. Mitch most likely finds a way to steal from someone else. Too risky to take on Trump. Knows he will lose in a battle with Trump cuz Trump tweets everything. Real time. I’m not worried.Liked by 2 peopleReply
    • Daniel says:December 6, 2019 at 2:27 pmIf he were smart, he’d offer his assistance and turn states evidence in any investigation which points in his direction. He just MIGHT stay out of prison and keep whatever retirement is befitting a career politician. But the problem is, he’s owned like pretty much all other swamp creatures and if you won’t take their bribes, they will destroy you before you can do anything honorable.Liked by 1 personReply
  13. rustybritches says:December 6, 2019 at 1:08 pmAt least 4 Dems have said they will vote no with impeachment coming out of the house and now they just need 14 or 15 more to vote no and not go to the Senate I believe that some of them do have good sense However Some people are saying that there are so many of the senators who want to vote P T Out of office and get rid of him, They all believe that they can handle Pence more than P T I don’t think there is any doubt that all the people who bailed out of the house in 2018 did so because they were paid to leave By RYAN and his back stabbing bunch of losers
    Soros should be run out of this country on a rail.. I believe too that it could be as high as 20 and if they are saying this behind PT back then McConnell is well aware of the amount who will vote to impeach Pt when the time comes and Pt may have this handled but Not take any thing that McConnell says as gospel that man is a real snake and low life..
    Be sure YOU have someone with you at all times when You talk to McConnell MR PRESIDENT
    WE LOVE YOU AND WILL NOT STAND BY WHILE THEY TRY TO REMOVE YOU FROM OFFICE.Liked by 1 personReply
    • Daniel says:December 6, 2019 at 2:30 pmThey would be right about Pence. He doesn’t stand for anything and especially does not support the president. He sold out on General Flynn without looking for the facts of the matter — he just feigned outrage and Trump fired him.He sounds like an auctioneer when he speaks. Lots of noise and very little substance.LikeReply
  14. FairTaxGuy60 says:December 6, 2019 at 1:51 pmAnother piece to the puzzle is that Democrats/Deep State/Media surely have other illegitimate plans up their sleeves once this gets to a Senate trial. Never doubt the Democrats. You may think it will look bad for them to air everything out in the Senate, but by George they will have a plan to get the votes they need to convict him. Especially in conjunction with what Sundance outlines above. Mark my words! Lobby your Congressman daily to vote NO on impeachment. Shut this down now, not in the Senate. Let John Durham do the righteous work of indicting and convicting these traitors.Liked by 1 personReply
  15. 6×47 says:December 6, 2019 at 1:54 pmThis article is exhibit “A” of “Sundance provides analysis you can’t get anywhere else.”Nobody else is saying this, anywhere. Keep up the good work.The counter move for President Trump? Obviously – make McConnell a better deal. Hopefully not one that involves selling out Main Street to K Street and China.Liked by 2 peopleReply
  16. GW says:December 6, 2019 at 1:59 pmSo Trump should do what the rest of these scum do time and again : promise whatever they want and after the acquittal, ignore the promises.LikeReply
  17. Mr e-man says:December 6, 2019 at 2:00 pmI still find it hard to see Dems actually wanting a real trial in the Senate, especially knowing the odds are for acquittal. They are happy with their backstabbing, unfair, unconstitutional Kangaroo court because they control the narrative. That goes away in a real trial where Trump can request discovery, subpoena witnesses that Schiff can’t deny, etc. On the other hand, they may be so willfully blinded by their hate, and fooled by their own propaganda, that they haven’t thought it through and don’t realize they are walking into a mine zone.Liked by 1 personReply
    • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 3:56 pmYour first paragraph is wise; the second paragraph has it: they’re demented, because “sin darkens the intellect” and wow, are those pro-aborts a sinful, wretched crew!LikeReply
  18. Battleship Wisconsin says:December 6, 2019 at 2:05 pmRepeating what I said in an earlier thread, an obvious truth should be recognized. The Senate will acquit the president of any wrongdoing. Whether or not the president is subsequently acquitted in the court of public opinion is what matters.Once articles of impeachment against President Trump have been passed by the House of Representatives and the follow-on Senate trial commences, the president and his legal team cannot defend him successfully in the court of public opinion without the full and complete cooperation of the Republican’s Senate leadership. A defense in depth mounted by a team consisting of Republicans from the House Judiciary Committee and the President’s own lawyers could turn the tables on the coup plotters and turn the accusers into the accused in the court of public opinion — assuming Mitch McConnell allows that kind of highly aggressive defense to be mounted. As I said earlier, a key question which must now be addressed is whether or not early public release of the classified Spygate documents during the course of the post-impeachment Senate trial would legally prejudice any criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perpetrators. ‘Early release’ in this context is defined as a release of classified Spygate documents which occurs before any of the Spygate perpetrators have been charged with a crime. Let’s presume for now that the articles of impeachment will include the alleged acts of obstruction of justice described in the Mueller Report. If that is the case, then issue subpoenas to all of the Spygate perpetrators and have them testify as witnesses in the Senate trial. Put them all under oath. Carefully note if anything they say contradicts known facts and refer them to the DOJ for prosecution for lying under oath if they slip up. Let the Democrats suffer the political consequences if all of the Spygate perps take the 5th Amendment in the course of the Senate trial.That said, it must also be said that one way or another, it is imperative that the Spygate perpetrators be criminally charged for their role in the coup against the president. As long as early release of the classified Spygate documents is done in response to a Senate subpoena issued in the course of a post impeachment trial of the president, I have to believe that criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perps would not be legally prejudiced by that early release. Not that the Spygate perp’s lawyers wouldn’t try to make that argument in court; they will. If anything is certain, it’s that as the oncoming Battle of Political Gettysburg evolves, any and all lawfare tactics will be used by one side or the other to gain a political or legal advantage. Repeating my original question:Would early public release of the classified Spygate documents during the course of the Senate trial be legally prejudicial to any criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perpetrators, if that release was done in response to a subpoena from the Senate?LikeReply
    • ATheoK says:December 6, 2019 at 2:31 pm“Battleship Wisconsin says: December 6, 2019 at 2:05 pm

      As I said earlier, a key question which must now be addressed is whether or not early public release of the classified Spygate documents during the course of the post-impeachment Senate trial would legally prejudice any criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perpetrators.’ Which fails to explain exactly how “classified Spygate documents”get released.A.G. Barr and president Trump can legally declassify the relevant documents.
      Truth tends to be a sanitizer.The faux prosecution of President Trump uses “classified Spygate documents” as part of the charges?
      • Risking prosecution for public exposure of classified documents?
      • Or letting Senators with sufficient security clearance to see the documents; plus the SCOTUS Judge sitting in the Senate who can legally expose the alleged classified documents?Face it, the absurdly lame democrat partisan impeachment that relies upon “classified Spygate documents” exposes their impeachment weaknesses right from the beginning.
      Which should immediately force the SCOTUS Judge to dismiss impeachment charges due to democrat abject refusals to follow and apply “due process rights and protections” in their blind jealous zeal to impeach.
      Poisonous fruit of the vine; with emphasis on poisonous.Anybody counting on Chief Justice Roberts to corruptly convict the President of impeachment is overlooking SCOTUS judges can be impeached easier than Presidents. Such an act of overt corruption would be the trigger to impeach a SCOTUS Judge.Liked by 1 personReply
      • Battleship Wisconsin says:December 6, 2019 at 4:28 pmATheoK says: ” …. Which fails to explain exactly how “classified Spygate documents” get released. …..”That’s an important question. How specifically do the currently classified Spygate documents get declassified and publicly released prior to the Spygate perpetrators being charged with crimes without legally prejudicing the cases against them?Here is how I think it might be done:(1) The House of Representatives passes articles of impeachment against President Trump which include allegations of obstruction of justice as described in the Mueller Report.(2) The rules the Senate establishes for conduct of the follow-on trial allow the President’s defense team to request declassification and public release of all currently classified Spygate documents thought to be pertinent to establishing Donald Trump’s guilt or innocence. (3) Under the Senate’s authority, the President’s legal team issues a subpoena for all of the Spygate documents included on the Sundance Sunlight Document List (SSDL). The request also includes declassification and public release of all those documents. (4) The Department of Justice reviews the Senate subpoena and the associated declassification request to determine if public release of these documents would be legally prejudicial to any criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perpetrators; and also if public release would harm national security. (5) In reviewing the Senate’s subpoena and the declassification request, the Department of Justice and AG William Barr must weigh the value of the public’s right to know against any possible future harm that might be done to national security and to subsequently filed criminal cases. (6) In this particular situation, the larger and most fundamental question must be asked: Is the public interest best served by declassification and public release of the Spygate documents, even if there is the potential for future harm to national security and to subsequently filed criminal cases?Assuming that most all of the material on the Sundance Sunlight Document List is declassified and publicly released per direction of AG William Barr; and assuming the Senate rules for the trial allow for it, then subpoenas are issued by the President’s defense team under the Senate’s authority to all of the Spygate perpetrators for their testimony as witnesses in the Senate trial. The perps are put under oath. Careful notes are taken to determine if anything they say contradicts known facts. If so, they are referred to the DOJ for prosecution for lying under oath. Let the Democrats suffer the political consequences if all of the Spygate perps choose to take the 5th Amendment in the course of the Senate trial.That said, it must be said once again that one way or another, it is imperative that the Spygate perpetrators be criminally charged for their role in the coup against the president. IMHO, as long as early release of the classified Spygate documents is done in response to a Senate subpoena issued in the course of a post impeachment trial of the president, I have to believe that criminal cases brought later against the Spygate perps would not be legally prejudiced by that early release. Not that the Spygate perp’s lawyers wouldn’t try to make that argument in court; they will. As I said in my first post, if anything is certain, it’s that as the oncoming Battle of Political Gettysburgevolves, any and all lawfare tactics will be used by one side or the other to gain a political or legal advantage.LikeReply
  19. ATheoK says:December 6, 2019 at 2:10 pmProving, beyond any doubt, just how corrupt McConnell really is.Liked by 1 personReply
  20. mauiis says:December 6, 2019 at 2:28 pmSundance ends many of his brilliant articles with “Trillions are at stake.” That’s serious blood money folks.I remember a movie about the Depression.Worn down and hopeless people are recruited to a marathon dance contest. The cash prize awarded to the winning couple is enough to form partnerships forged in Hell. To spice things up the emcee spontaneously has the tiring, abused dance partners run mini races around the floor. A male partner experiences a heart attack, his female partner (they were in the lead) drags his dead carcass across the finish line to stay in the dance.It continues to its dystopian, dreary end in which the woman who dragged her dead companion across the finish line (she found another partner to finish the marathon) wins the contest.She then discovers that the cash prize is subject to “expenses” of the event ending up with a mere pittance of the prize money. Retrieving a pistol from her purse she puts the barrel to her head but can’t pull the trigger. Her exhausted and embittered partner is asked to do the job. He does.When asked by the police why he did this he replied, “They shoot horses don’t they?”
    —————————————How long must “We The People” be made to endure this marathon of malice and destruction being played out in Washington? How much longer will the hectoring of self-appointed emcee’s cajoling the sheep to “keep dancing, the prize is almost won” when the reality is NO PRIZE EXISTS!!! At least for “We The People.”So much more than “trillions” at stake but we know that. Either we continue to be danced to death or we put a stop to it. By any means necessary. Trump isn’t God and even he can’t do this alone. I’m stunned (and grateful beyond measure) he’s taken us this far.It’s time to have a discussion, a serious discussion about the “means” that may well be necessary other than bullets (at least for now). It appears that traditional means ain’t working but maybe I’m wrong, not being privy to behind-closed-doors activity. But if I, and many others like me are not wrong, what do we do? Besides posting screeds such as this one, or worse “Lock and Load,” “Molon Labe,” or other keyboard-warrior inanities. (I’m not opposed to armed citizen defense by the way, it is expressly why we have the 2nd A. I simply have no confidence in the chest pounding expulsions of armchair warriors aka “Sunshine Patriots” so common on chats.)What. Do. We. Do? Tax revolt? Massive boycotts of public education? Re-jigger “Lawfare” and turn it against the Washington pig-stye? Will conservatives even attempt a real march on Washington, one attended by millions, not thousands? I don’t really know, seems we can’t even support alternative social media sites such a GAB, hell, we can’t even give up FaceBook or Google, all powerful institutions that make no secret of their disdain, even hatred for us.Any ideas?Liked by 1 personReply
    • ann says:December 6, 2019 at 4:00 pmMaui is,
      A couple rough IdeasSilent Turnouts on State capitols, federal courthouses, Senate home offices. Burr McCconnel, etc A 10 percent tax withholding in demand for cuts in Dept of Education, or some other noxious public sector, Critical to Link clear reasonable & broadly supported demands with specific durable doable actions. And visibility. Even a discreet bracelet like I wore for MIAs, cause us small folk are really physically vulnerable but we want to be free too. ♥️Blacks are passionate about illegal migration, and sanctuary cities were imposed wo our consent. Those are two unifying points. Also a counter theme I admired & identify with, Poland’s “Solidarity” movement.Liked by 1 personReply
  21. Another Scott says:December 6, 2019 at 2:31 pmIf it comes to dropping the China battle people will put two and two together and see that the impeachment is the reason.Liked by 1 personReply
  22. paulg1961 says:December 6, 2019 at 2:35 pmI’m reading these comments, and I think most of you think Trump has God’s hand around him. God better, because, IF OUR Congress/government wants ‘something’ to ‘happen’ to somebody, I’m pretty sure it will/can happen. IF Trump pizzed off ALL the wrong people, well…….LikeReply
  23. paulg1961 says:December 6, 2019 at 2:35 pmI’m reading these comments, and I think most of you think Trump has God’s hand around him. God better, because, IF OUR Congress/government wants ‘something’ to ‘happen’ to somebody, I’m pretty sure it will/can happen. IF Trump pizzed off ALL the wrong people, well…….LikeReply
  24. Effem says:December 6, 2019 at 2:36 pmThis strikes me as a bit short-sighted. The President has the power to act unilaterally on many trade issues. If the Republicans lose the White House (as Pence or whomever surely would in an absolute landslide) it’s entirely possible the next Democrat President will be much more aggressive with China and Mitch then has little ability to influence.LikeReply
  25. dallavise says:December 6, 2019 at 2:56 pmNot sure if i agree with this. Not that I disagree with the dynamic and how Mitch works, but there is a serious problem with pulling the trigger on convicting. Americans will revolt. At best, there will be a huge effort to eliminate ALL incumbents. And it wouldn’t be small numbers. I think it would be suicide to get rid of Trump, unless they have some intriguing evidence they are holding back, which would have to be spectacular to shift opinion. Worst case, Civil War, or at least major unrest.Liked by 2 peopleReply
    • Raghn Crow says:December 6, 2019 at 4:02 pmExactly, and whatever else Turtle is, he is not a fool. If he blows up the country, where’s he gonna live? Samoa? Does he have family, grandkids? Does he want ANY “legacy” at all? For when all is said and done: “Only a fool fights in a burning house,” – Klingon proverbLiked by 1 personReply
  26. mikeyboo says:December 6, 2019 at 3:00 pmIf President Trump loses power, McConnell will be toast in Kentucky. Is he ready for that?Liked by 1 personReply
  27. Muthaucker says:December 6, 2019 at 3:08 pmThe time is fast approaching where the consequences of “business as usual”, will be deadly.Liked by 1 personReply
  28. Atta boy says:December 6, 2019 at 3:45 pmOne more reason to repeal the 17th amendment.LikeReply
  29. Richard Axley says:December 6, 2019 at 4:04 pmVery informational article. Now I’m worried McConnell will sell his votes to convict Trump, McConnell is as much (or more so ) a ‘congress critter’ than anybody else. He stands to lose at LEAST as much as anybody else as the ‘swamp’ is drained.
    Of course the press would treat McConnell as a hero, instead of traitor-he’d be another McStain-selling his vote wherever as needed to get as rich as he want’s (not that trying to get rich is wrong if you do it ethically)LikeReply
  30. Lyon says:December 6, 2019 at 4:09 pmI disagree with your Premise that McConnell doesn’t like being the Majority Leader.He’s remaking the Courts faster than any Majority Leader in History.Oh, and Trump scares the Sh!t out of him.LikeReply
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THE HATE CAMPAIGN BEING WAGED AGAIST ARCHBISHOP Fulton J. SHEEN’S BEATIFICATION IS SURELY GOING TO BACKFIRE AGAINST THE THREE BISHOPS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELAY IN HIS BEATIFICATION

Phil Sevilla3:59 PM (0 minutes ago)

Friends,

Church politics is behind the delay in Archbishop Sheen’s  beatification. Raymond  Arroyo dug into this story this week. He is, imho, the most honest, well-informed, courageous Catholic journalist in America.

It appears the Rochester bishop, Salvatore Matano, filed the request with the Vatican to delay the beatification scheduled for December 21st, arguing that the New York Attorney General was releasing a report on clergy sexual abuse. Archbishop Sheen’s life and works have been vetted for the past twenty years.

It also appears as discovered by Arroyo that Cardinal Dolan and Cardinal Cupich added their support to the delay requested by the Rochester Bishop. Recall that there was a long drawn out feud between the New York archdiocese and Peoria diocese fighting over the final burial space of the Archbishop. After a prolonged legal battle, New York lost and the Archbishop’s remains were transferred to Peoria.

I am persuaded by Raymond Arroyo yhat due to the thorough vetting of Archbishop Sheen’s life and works,  there was no justification to stop the beatification to wait for the New York Attorney General’s findings. The beatification is stage one to the Archbishop’s final canonization. Why is the Vatican and these two American Cardinals bowing to secular government officials, many hostile and prejudicial against the Catholic Church?

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